Grangemouth to close!!!!

I agree with you. Never happen unfortunately. A workers' occupation would be the next best thing.

 

Sack the * who said no. Ill take there place on the new terms. Then everythings sorted

Hope we dont panic buy and leave us dry, av got 30 miles left n no money till sunday

 

It's happening to lots of people, not just them.

What can the company do?

Losing £150M per year and the pension fund has a deficit of £200M. I think we know what happens when you outlive your means.

Don't you think other companies aren't freezing workers pay, altering pensions and changing workers terms and conditions all the time? Well they are. My company is also in a consultation period to make cuts to the pension fund.

Sadly for years too many people have made promises on the pension front that is simply never going to happen. Everyone has been contributing a tiny fraction of what they've been promised to take out. It just doesn't work and someone needs to pay for it.

The workers were also going to be given some compensation. According to the BBC staff would get up to £15, 000 to accept the changes.

I feel sorry for the workers. Many did actually agree to the cost cutting measures and the rest obviously put faith in their union. I'm sure given the choice between cuts or no job, they would have accepted cuts.

The union has pushed too far and lost badly.

The company is going to file for liquidation and the employees will probably get nothing.

A total mess.

 

You can bet that the guys at the top end of the union in question won't be losing their job or facing the prospect of a Christmas unemployed like the workers in this situation.

 

I work there and we have been left in limbo. No clue as to what to expect tomorrow. Redundancy beckons I'm sure.

 

Why not strike for better pay and conditions, it's not as if there isn't a shitload of money in oil. Of course it should spill down to the workers.

SNP need to find a way to nationalise the *.

 

There is a lot of money in oil. Not if you are only refining it on other companies behalf though.

You can get it done cheaply elsewhere in the world.

 

They tried that and now they are all going to lose their jobs ffs

 

Thats fantastic news m8!

 

So you should just take whatever * a company hands you in case they pack it up and move abroad? * that, have some baws man. They done the right thing.

 

Tim time its no more over the top than the corporate scum and utility companies who shaft ua all on a regular basis

 

Aye no doubt that will help them pay for Christmas. I feel sorry for the ones who voted to work and now they are * because of a union who are supposed to act in the interests of the members * *.

 

What is the right thing ? Accepting new terms and conditions and having a job wether it be a small pay cut or freeze , it will ensure their family's can still eat and be able to keep warm this winter ...or on the other hand go on strike , don't accept new terms and conditions , lose your job , no food and unable to heat your home ????
I know which one I'd rather choose , the union has brainwashed them to walkout and to vote against change ....everyone has had it tough in the last couple of years these guys are no different , I wonder if any of them now regret what they did ??

 

Without knowing all the details this is exactly how I see it

 

I'd rather stand my ground and be made redundant than to accept cut after cut to my wage and pension to the point where the job wasn't worth it anymore. Perhaps it's just a matter of character.

 

They weren't having their wages cut, just frozen.

Many of the guys were earning money and getting pensions much higher than they'll ever get again.

Many people understood and accepted. The rest were mislead by their union.

I don't think you've quite grasped what is happening.

 

it's the petrochemical side that's losing the money, not the refinery side.
but it's strange that they're not planning to close down the refinery, isn't it ?

inios have played this out the way they'd planned.

remember, theres only one party in this dispute that want the plant to close, and it certainly not the unions.

some rich oil-billionaire *, sitting on his £160m yacht ripping the heart out of the Scottish oil industry, and yet there still some wee closet tories on here thinking it's all the unions fault.
* forbid it ever happens to yous. were looking forward to an independent country yet some are quite happy to see some * destroy what should be a vital part of this country's infrastructure.
throughout the years we've stood by and watched this countries heavy industries destroyed by people outwith our borders and once again we see history repeating itself.

f*cking disgracefull.

 

I did hear today Inios was selling the oil to a sister company at a loss for some tax avoidance possibly anyone confirm or heard that ??, couldn’t make it up if it is swindling that has closed it.