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Future Managers

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by shieldsybhoy, Mar 8, 2010.

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  1. OC

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    There's not enough [​IMG]s in the world, just not enough...
     
  2. emmetf

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    tl;dr
     
  3. Hughesie

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    I like your thinking, I travelled from Yorkshire to watch the recent home game against Falkirk which wasted a full day and over £100. I didnt see any sexy football, infact I saw some brilliant sunday league play from Falkirk and also didnt realise celtic were on the pitch.

    Why count sheep to go to sleep when you can listen to one of Tony's interviews. Carlsburg dont do horlicks but if they did they would be the best sleeping pills in the world.

    I Like the thought of Henrik but for some reason I would like to see Paul Lambert head up to Celtic and bring us back to the promise land. With martin as a mentor he can only get better and better
     
  4. Hoopy07

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    Our next manager needs to have experiance, a guy that can handle the pressure of a big club, experianced. none of this Celtic minded crap for me.

    We should be looking at guys like.

    Roy Hodgson
    Mark Hughes
    Otmar Hitzfeld
    Gerard Houllier
    Louis Van Gaal
    Leo Beenhakker


    Those guys have experiance of managing big clubs, and i dont believe for one minute that all of them would know back one of the biggest clubs in the world, look at Rijkard going to Galatasaray and Hitzfeld at Switzerland.


     
  5. adiadi

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    mate get a grip sir alex ferguson looked like a fud in his first season at old trafford(not that im saying he will be anything like him) but give the guy a chance he still not got the team he would like to put out on the pitch because of injuries at the back and there will still be more changes to come in the summer

    in mowbray i trust :)
     
  6. Frank_the_bhoy

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    I wouldn't mind hughes at least he would sort out the defence.
     
  7. adiadi

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    mark hugheses defence at man city was horrific and how do you know mowbrays defence is bad hooiveld and loovens have played about 30 mins together
     
  8. Twisty . Gold Member

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    people keep saying we need an experienced manager and comin out wae trappatoni and people like that...who would be expensive.what about egil olsen?the old norway manager(maybe still is)he has plenty of experience,and could make us good defensively.and wouldn't be as expensive as the alternatives
     
  9. shieldsybhoy

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    I dont understand where people are coming from when they say a 'long term plan'. I your an old firm manager and you dont win the league - you should get sacked imo. It would be interesting to look at Paul Le Guen's statistics in his first season at Rangers and compare them to Mowbrays. When your at Celtic, there is no 'long term plane'. You have to win the league now, and if you don't? Well you can get to * imo. I knew Mowbray would be *. Why did we appoint someone, who didnt just come last in the Premiership, West Brom were in Portsmouth's current position last season. They were the whipping boys of the Premiership. West Brom dont have a bad reputation, they have stayed up before, but under Mowbray, they got *. Slavan Bilic's agent, Rudi Vata phoned Setanta News telling Celtic to contact him so they could sign him. I reckon a host of top European teams would jump at the chance to have Bilic as their manager. But nope. Lawwell wanted someone 'Celtic Minded'. What the * is Celtic minded? Someone that supports Celtic. Mowbray comes from the * Midlands, fair enough he played for us, but he wasnt outstanding. The board have come to pay the price of ignorant and stupid decisions. They are businessmen ffs, they should have weighed up the advantages and disadvantages of each manager and clearly seen that Bilic was the much stronger candidate. Bilic would have become a Celtic ICON. I could bet my life on it that he would have been. With his attitud, his personality and his love for the game, the Celtic fans would have loved him. And he would have got results as he is a proven winner. Croatia havent always been great shakes but now they are feared by every team around the world and everyone expects a very tough game against them and that is all down to Bilic. The board should cut their losses at the end of the season, sack Mowbray and bring in a QUALITY manager. The Eriksson and Larsson thougt was only a suggestion. The board need to actually pay high wages to ensure European and domestic sucess.
     
  10. Hoopy07

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    Bilic has never managed a club side, and for Rudi Vata touting his man across europe why has a big club never made a move for him?

    He could not even get a very good Croatia team into the playoffs for the European Championships when they where seeded in pot 1, and got quite a decent group.

    And for people fearing Croatia, would not say its all down to Billic they have been qualifying for major finals for last 14 years with diffreent managers. Even finished 3rd i think at france 98.

    If Bilic was as good as people think he is, then surely a club would have made a move for him by now, and his agent would not need to tout him for every big job that becomes avalible.

    Saying all that would rather have him than Mowbray :56:
     
  11. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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    Before we start 'pie in the sky' dreaming of who might or might not be a viable option, can I just ask what would be peoples' reasonable expectations for a new manager? Does failure to win at the first time of asking constitute a completed dud? What set of criteria would you apply to determining a success or failure for a new manager in his 1st season?
     
  12. Frank_the_bhoy

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    Don't get us knocked out of all the cups and finish 10 or more pts behind rangers.

    At least give us a couple of good memorys of that season and interact with the fans let them see you care

    Don't
    Tell the fans you don't enjoy the job, tell the players they are rubbish and he will get rid of them all, don't get rid of every bit of backbone in the team, don't watch the defence leak goals like nobodys business and don't fix it.

    And above all try to show some * passion.

    That will do me.:50:
     
  13. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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    Think most people would have some variation of this. Given the resources of Celtic, and the pre-eminant ppposition we have in Scotland it is not being too unrelaistic.

    Lets face it. We exist in a 2 horse race, so far as the league goes. If you don't win, it should be pretty close, down to the couple of games.

    To make a decent fist of it, in so much as the domestic Cups are concerned. A good run in at least one of these getting to the semis or the final is not unrealistic.

    To put up some fight in Europe. At the very least the opponants know that they have been in a game, and makes the support think - 'if we go out, we go out fighting.'

    To make sure the home form is strong. oesn't have to be a total fortress, but signs of moving towards this would be a strong showing for the fans.

    Look to fix glaring problems. A bad tradesman blames his tools. If there is a problem, take steps to rectify it until there is an opportunity to bring players in. If the players can't play to your ideal tactics, tailor the tactics until you do have the players that can.

    Its not totally unreasonable, is it?
     
  14. Frank_the_bhoy

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    Not by any means mate.:50:
     
  15. shieldsybhoy

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    Completely agree. Part of me wants us to lose to a 2nd division team in the cup so he can just get sacked now ffs.
     
  16. kennydal

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    Just seen this ,and he is banned ,no point in answering him then.Pravda:56:
     
  17. Hughesie

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    Maybe David Moyes could be the savour. I dont belive there is much else he can achieve at Everton & he has been a fantastic servent to them. Much like Martin at Leicester David may find this a fantastic challenge to take us forward again. He has worked to tight budgets and achieved success on the small pot of money he has had. Get Neil Lennon in as his number two.
     
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    its horrible been so far behind them..people are saying give mogga time but i agree with the fellow who said, as an old frim manager, if you dont win the league the first season you are a failure, i completly agree with that..at Celtic there is no honeymoon perioid/season...its so strange been so far behind the huns..last time they won the league without us blowing it on last day was '99? bad times..need to sort it tony. and if u cant give it to sum1 who can
     
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    All quotes are from his agent who was touting him for every available job as agents tend to do, I have yet to see a quote directly from him.

    Added to that the fact he has never managed a club side therefore he has no experience of buying players, working with them on a daily basis, working to tight budgets etc.

    Due to work permit legislation there is also no guarantee that he would be able to get a load of young, quality Eastern Europeans over.

    A good international manager does not necessarily mean they'll be a good club manager, not only that Croatia haven't been doing brilliantly recently either.