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Fraser Forster

Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by JC Anton, Jan 13, 2016.

Discuss Fraser Forster in the Ex Players area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. bhoy_wonder Gold Member Gold Member

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    So what I'm getting from this is that the big man doesn't want a loan but wants a permanent move. And according to the papers Southampton are willing to sell at the right price.
     
  2. Smithy

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    Definitely seems to be the case.

    If he is indeed on £92k a week then I think we need to move on. Even if he somehow agreed to take half those wages, would we pay that? Especially in the current climate. I really doubt it.
     
  3. Jeremie Frimpong

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    If we are looking to replace Gordon (I don't believe that we need to), I would rather that we went for someone younger and cheaper, in terms of salary, than Marshall.
     
  4. CookieMonster BOTB King Gold Member

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    GK's only really come into their prime at that age, he's still got a good 6-8 years in him since he looks after himself well and obviously barring injuries.

    I think £8M is a fair price and similar to Jullien it's little sell on value but very important to have that experience and quality in the team rather than too many projects. We can afford it and can sell Ntcham for probably £12M+ to cover the fee and wages.
     
  5. CookieMonster BOTB King Gold Member

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    He's on £70K at Southampton. https://www.spotrac.com/epl/southampton-f.c/fraser-forster-22940/

    We paid £15K of that last season while he was on loan here. I imagine we'd maybe offer as high as £35K in wages, so still plenty money if we wants to be first pick, win trophies and be in Europe.
     
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    Assuming he's been on that wage for 5/6 years then he's likely earned around £18mil after taxes. Hopefully the chance to play regularly for a couple of million less a year is enticing enough.

    Get it done Pedro.
     
  7. JC Anton Here we go... Gold Member

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    I hear what you’re saying but zero chance we’re paying over £5m for a GK..
     
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  8. CookieMonster BOTB King Gold Member

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    Depends on other options I suppose and how much Southampton want, given the economic situation I think all valuations will be dropping a good bit so you never know. £5M for Forster would be a bargain.

    Also wonder if we have a sell on fee :fear:
     
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    Was just about to post something similar. Everywhere I've looked it's been mooted as 70k. Not sure where this 92 or 100k comes from
     
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  10. CookieMonster BOTB King Gold Member

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    Papers talking * as usual.
     
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  11. Scott smyth

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    The money isn't what the clubs worth or where they play its what the players is worth to US. Look at last year. We paid 5.5 million quid on 2 left backs yet both kept out the team at various points by a left midfielder, Jonny Hayes. That's were I get frustrated by Lenny over his 2 spells. He likes to get numbers in but imo why not spend 5.5 million on a real quality left back than get 2 half decent ones. The way it ended up was neither new player really impressed enough to say they are first choice picks next year Especially with Moi back and Soro also looking to get games. Lenny did that a lot in his first spell and was costly and wasted a lot of money on loans and transfers.
     
  12. Scott smyth

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    100 % agree with that. We waste far too much money on players that for an extra couple of million would be the answer. I said in another post that Taylor and Bolingoli failed to cement the left back position and I would have rather seen us spend 5.5 on one player and keep Jonny as back up. Sometimes you need to spend what you need to get what u want. This is one of those times imo
     
  13. Scott smyth

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    See when David was here before, yes great games v Barca and the Zombies, he failed to impress at times and remember a goal in the Scottish cup final were he was extremely poor. Imo he isn't good enough to come back to us now. For once I want to see us get our NUMBER ONE choice not 2nd 3rd or 4th
     
  14. Westlondonscot Gold Member Gold Member

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    The problem was we needed 2 left backs and other positions such as 2 right backs, a centre back, a left winger and a keeper.
    I also think Taylor improved and made the position my the end of the season grabbing 5 assists. Spend an extra £2m, so let's say £5m, does that get you a good player? That is how much Bauer cost Stoke, I bet Toljan would have cost Celtic at least that probably more had we signed him permanently.
     
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    Ex-players is he not.

    Let's not drag this * out much longer.

    If Chelsea are after him he's going there.

    Put a bid in and call it then.
     
  16. Dan Breen

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    I think he is just hoping to get a pay out from Southampton.
    Problem is, we just cannot wait for that to pan out.
     
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    Let go rather than put in a transfer request ,the 6 million dollar question ,can they afford to keep him .
     
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    I remember a friendly he was in goal , manager was Strachan or o Neil, opposition took a decent shot at him and it went through his hands , thoughts at the time were ' that will be the end for him " didnt see him again , but he has done well down south and gained a lot of experience .
     
  19. Just Kieran Gold Member News Writer Gold Member

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    Wouldn't rule out him coming back just yet, but it's a bit of a difficult situation.

    Reading between the lines last season, I'd say Forster wants to be here and it'c clear the manager would want him back. There's been talk of Chelsea, but I can't see him choosing to go somewhere to sit on the bench and just play the odd cup game. If Southampton genuinely want him to stay and challenge for a place, then there's not really a lot we can do. It's not like we can force their hand, financially, as they will be wealthier than us.

    I think you could see how happy Forster was when he re-joined Celtic last Summer. Apart from being happy yo be a first choice again, he talked about coming 'home'. If he really want to come back, it'll be up to him to make that clear to Southampton. If he hands in a transfer request he'll sacrifice his loyalty bonus, in addition to also having to take a big wage cut to come back. No matter how you feel about Celtic, that will be a big thing for him to give up.
     
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  20. Officer Doofy Hey Terry, smell my finger!

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    Need to put a deadline on this. Can't be waiting for him all window.

    If there's no movement for another week or so we should be looking elsewhere - preferably Barkas.