Trying to knock this one on the head as it goes around in circles.
Idea is simples, vote on what you believe.
1. Celtic should sing about our historical links with Ireland and Irish hero's.
2. Celtic should sing about Ireland but leave out anything to do with the IRA
3. Celtic should only sing about football
4. We should all just sit down, shut up, don't swear or cause any sort of offensive behaviour of any sort.
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1. Celtic should sing about our historical links with Ireland and Irish hero's. Because it isn't illegal or sectarian as some people like to believe.
Let The People Sing -
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I have nothing against rebel songs, one of y favourite albums is Eire og at brazen head. But if uefa do end up fining or banning us then it's time to stop.
Don't want to hear they dont have a leg to stand on because if Celtic done for this there are going to be people who don't sing abou the IRA getting punished which is a greater amount than those who do. -
I voted for the first one, we're not in the wrong.
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Don't think uefa care who's in the right. If they find us guilty things have to change.
Personally I don lt think they will. But still no.2 seems right to me. Irish songs that don't involve pira chants or add-ons are fine.
Still don't mind botob though.
But again if we get into * about this then Celtic football club are bigger than the song sheet. -
2 - even if the songs are right or wrong, for me singing them is never going to prove benefictial for the club.
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Number 2 is involving the IRA at all, no Boys of the Old Brigade, Celtic Symphony etc. -
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However…
Roll of Honour, Boys of the Old Brigade, Sean South, Merry Ploughboy, Broad Black Brimmer, Patriot Game etc… are all fine.
These are historical ballads which lament the struggle for Irish independence. There is nothing wrong with them. Let the people sing :celt_2: -
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honestly I could do without the IRA stuff, the club has asked for it to stop and that really should be that; if UEFA fine the club over this then it simply has to, no ifs, no buts.
but no media smear campaign is going to convince me that such chants are sectarian or even illegal. they are not. offensive to some yes but since when is simply holding a view that the state finds simply 'offensive' a crime?
for example, I can go on itunes and download the celtic symphony or boys of the old brigade if I so wished, they are not illegal; are people going to be arrested for even downloading or listening to such "offensive" songs? this bill is only the thin edge of the wedge, mark my words they won't be content in simply getting rid of IRA chants. Next it'll be 'hun'; then it'll be anything that celebrates the clubs shared irish heritage and before you know it we will have become the glasgow equivalent of hibernian, an inoffensive, soulless shell of a club.
its quite something that the reaction to celtic staff being attacked and sent bombs and bullets has been to criminalize celtic fans, as if this will stop people having sectarian attitudes towards catholics and irish people; all the while pleading ignorance as to why the sectarian crime data, widely expected to show that most sectarian offences occur in and around orange marches, mysteriously disappeared when it was most needed.Last edited by a moderator: Nov 15, 2011 -
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I'd still say no.2. I could survive if I didn't hear it at games. I listen to it enough.
And Celtic symphony can do without ooh ah up the ra. -
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Kind of agree with this tbh.
IRA/PIRA chants and add ons will hopefully for the sake of the club fade away. -
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Could someone tell me exactly why this song should be banned? -
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13428967
Just thought it's a good reminder about what and who we are actually singing about :50:Last edited by a moderator: Nov 15, 2011 -
Just realised that chants will probably not mean songs.
I.E. the add-ons, as previously mentioned, such as "ooh ah up the 'RA" will be why they're putting Celtic under the cosh.
This can surely be agreed by all that they can go? -
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No offence Mystic but your going to end up derailing another thread. Not you alone but you'll no doubt catch someone with that abnormally big fishing rod of yours. :56:
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me too, i have no problem with the add ons goin but I refuse to let a bunch of hun cops and politicians telling me to stop singing THE SOLDIERS SONG, BOTOB, CELTIC SYMPHONY because they offend people.
this nothing more than a witch hunt and is worrying that some of our support don't see it for what it is. -
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