F1 Thread

Bahrain Grand Prix looks to be very doubtful to go ahead once again. The t4eams say they don't expect it to go ahead but old Bernie is saying it will.

 

I will be disgusted if it goes ahead.Sometimes sport does have to look at the big picture.

 

too dangerous to race there at the moment ....maybe Bernie has took some money off someone promising the race will go ahead

 

Well done to Nico Rosberg,a well deserved win.Loving this F1 season,every race is different and unpredictable,long may it continue.

 

Indeed. Great race for 2nd place.... Raikonnen going from 2nd to 14th in 2 laps
Shows how close the racing was really.

 

loving F1 now, * Vettel and his moaning mon the Button and Di Resta :bbpd:

 

Ecclestone has no sense of morality. It doesn't even flag up on his radar.

He shouldn't be free to walk the streets never mind in charge of F1.

 

What an amazing race

Well done to Rosberg he was fantastic all weekend. Great drive from the McLaren boys as well.

Never seem such a tight finish for 2nd, there were 7 or 8 cars going for it. Feel a bit sorry for Kimi, 2nd to 14th in under 2 laps! Delighted for Grosjean finally doing more than a few laps and getting some good points on the board.

3 races and 3 different winners, this season should be the most exciting in years :icon_mrgreen:

 

Delighted for Nico, Norbert Haug, Ross Brawn and all the Mercedes team, they fully deserved the win. As a Jenson Button fan I was gutted at yet another McLaren pit * up costing Jenson dearly, it's hard to say if he would have caught Nico but it would have been close. Two bad luck incidents have cost Button two wins in the last two races in my opinion and Lewis needs to pull his finger out because for the second F1 season in a row Jenson is making him look like McLaren's "second driver"

 

Actually quite liking Hamilton this year. He seems to have matured and lost his 1st or nothing attitude that seen him on the wrong side of the stewards so often in the past. Time will tell but hopefully he will keep it up.

Webber is looking much better this season. I read in the paper today that Karthikeyan's top spped was 152mph compared to Perez's 202mph. It really is a milk float made of carbon fibre the HRT.

 

He needs calm himself down, Jenson proved last season that the McLaren car is better when you're not aggressive with it and it looks the same case this season, Lewis needs to adjust his driving style to suit. Also, the Pirelli tyres quick degradation don't help Hamilton's driving style at all and in my opinion the McLaren MP4-27 (and last years MP4-26) has been made to counter this if it's driven properly.

I totally agree on your point on Lewis' more mature attitude, since the Massa incidents last year he's done a brilliant job of rising above the criticism, personally I think a lot of it was unwarranted because Massa doesn't belong in an F1 car, terrible F1 driver in my opinion, maybe his accident a few years ago has something to do with that? but still, Fernando Alonso (as much as I dislike him and Ferrari in general) has shown that you can get the best out of a not so good car when your attitude and dedication is right.

I like Mark Webber but I think his attitude and complaining cost him the championship 2 years ago, he seemed to have an inferiority complex to Vettel and blamed the team way too much when he was already leading the championship. Delighted to see him pass Vettel yesterday, hopefully he'll continue to let his driving do the talking instead of making excuses.

As for HRT, I'd kick them out of F1, of the 3 new teams Caterham (Team Lotus) and Marussia (Virgin) have made big steps forward since they were accepted into F1, they actually look like teams that want to compete although it will take several years to do so, Red Bull are a perfect example of where being the diddy team with big ambitions gets you, HRT look like they are spectators rather than competitors and it looks like it will never change. 152mph? you can go faster in a stock Nissan GTR

 

I prefer Hamilton when he goes balls out - same with Raikkonnen in 2005. It cost him the title, but by * was he a Legend in every race thrashing the * off that McLaren.
Villeneuve (Gilles) was the same, Keke Rosberg, Senna, Schumacher (early career), Alonso, Kimi, Hamilton... you need drivers who will push and push and push and never quit until the car does first. Their unpredictability is what makes them special.

 

Yeah it's exciting to watch those guys when a car is made for all out speed and the tyres will hold up, these days it's not the case, you need a clever driver who can manage the car and tyres. There's a lot more to racing than just thrashing the * off a car, there's a documentary called Truth In 24 (I recommend it a great insight into racing) it's about the 2008 Le Mans 24 hours, a perfect example of how intelligence beats all out speed.

EDIT: A link to said documentary if you haven't seen it http://stagevu.com/video/dtqpklzbbyaw

 

A bit unfair surely? Lewis started 7th on the grid yesterday after outqualifying Jenson on pace, and to take 3rd from that what with all the traffic and chaotic racing is undoubtedly a great result for a weekend in which he was on the back foot before practice had even begun. Couple that with him leading the championship and I can't see how he really seems like a second driver atm.

Whilst Jenson has probably proven himself to be a more well rounded driver than Lewis since he joined McLaren, I think Lewis still has the edge when it comes to raw pace. Will be interesting to see how their battle pans out when we reach the European races (and in particular Barcelona) where I think we may see the McLarens start to exert their authority a little more.

 

Results tell the story surely? Lewis is leading the championship because a muppet in Malaysia ruined Jenson's race and yes you could say that he was "racing" but was he really? Don't get me wrong, I'm a JB fan but also a McLaren fan and fully support Lewis too, I just think he doesn't (or can't) handle F1 unless he's in a car with balls out speed and tyres that go on forever.

Jenson is a better driver, not the more well rounded and as I said in my last post with a link to a documentary to a great example of the theory, raw pace means very little in modern racing and I'll probably sound a little controversial here when I say Lewis drives an F1 car like he's still in karting when in this day and age it just doesn't work.

 

Interesting point!

 

i think jenson is a more controlled driver than hamilton, hamilton is a wee erratic *, and he's well known for it, i was very doubtful about buttons ability whilst at brawn because i thought he only won because he had a great car but he's been great at mclaren too i think, outstanding driver and i reckon he'll win the championship this year. Had really bad luck in malaysia

 

If you watch Jenson drive you'll see the best driver in F1 and the best driver in my opinion I've ever saw in this F1 generation where fast isn't always best. He was held back for years with BAR (Honda) their cars were pathetic, sure in 2009 with Brawn GP he had a good car down to the double diffuser which incidentally Williams and Toyota also had at the start of the season and they couldn't cut it. Lewis is a good driver, he just doesn't understand the difference when you have to go all out and when you have to manage your car, as you said "erratic" yes he was but I think he's learned a lot since the Massa incidents, he just needs to learn that thrashing the * out your car for two hours won't win you anything.

 

To be fair to Lewis, I don't think he's thrashed his car in the opening 3 races and he's been all the better for it. Even though he's yet to take a win his consistency of putting alot of points on the board could pay dividends at the end of the season. I still think Jenson is better all round though. The way he can preserve tyres and stay consistent through all weather conditions is quite remarkable, though I still maintain that Alonso is the best driver on the grid.

He has flattered 2 very poor Ferraris the last 2 seasons. It's easy to see just how far ahead he is of Massa who has about the same experience. I think it may be time for Massa's F1 career soon he's clearly been nowhere near the driver he was since his accident. He's also struggled badly since traction control was (thankfully) banned.

HRT are a safety hazard IMO. It's like a 25cc moped in the fast lane on the M8. Karthikeyan has some knack of getting in the way of faster cars. All 23 of them.

Dissapointed Caterham still haven't pushed their way into the midfield. Mike Gascoine (I think that's his name) keeps going on about how good they are and how they'll score at least 40 points in a season but they're still WAY off the pace.

Great to see Williams back on track after a nightmare season and even better to see a Senna doing so well for them.

I hope Mercedes can put a proper challenge on McLaren and Red Bull. They've been very disappointing since taking over Brawn but the win at the weekend will hopefully galvanise them.

Di Resta is doing well once again and beating his team mate Hulkenberg which is good to see. He has a bright future ahead of him.

 

I've had it with Formula One, completely.

I see Force India team members have now had to run for their lives, getting petrol bombs lobbed over their heads when they got caught in a running battle between police and human rights demonstrators.

And yet still these * drivers are giving it the party line, "We're sportsmen, not politicians. We know nothing. We do what the FIA tells us, and if they say everything's fine then it's fine."

What a shower of * spineless *.

There's folk being tortured and murdered out there for speaking out for basic human rights, and these * are still giving it the "We're not politicians" line. No, you're not politicians, you cocksuckers. But you're human beings - and there's other human beings being tortured and killed a few blocks away from your * hotels - by the same people who are financing the race, and indirectly paying your wages. How long can you just turn your heads and pretend it ain't happening?

And how the * can I feel any interest in who finishes a race a couple of seconds ahead of who else, knowing that every one of the participants is a moneygrubbing, spineless fool, who's willing to accept a few sand-* getting it in the neck as long as they get to drive round their * track?

Utterly shameful.