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Downsizing is a Myth

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by ILoveTheCeltic, Aug 1, 2014.

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  1. celtic warrior

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    I still wouldn't because by the time Wanyama and really proven his worth for more money it would have been all twisted because of his stints in the CL and thus meaning his agent could have quite rightly to be perfectly honest start asking for him to be the top earner so just by simply doubling his wages wouldn't have done anything because in some way or another his agent would have likely made it out to be a derisory and unworthy offer for someone who has suddenly become the "great wall of kenya" for celtic in the CL.

    Thus we were always going to lose that battle.
     
  2. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    It’s better to have tried and failed than to live life wondering what would’ve happened if I had tried
     
  3. AwesomeCaz

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    The board are not letting Celtic perform to their absolute potential, that's the bottom line and that's why most fans are * off.

    We know we can't sign Ronaldo or Suarez but there's a middle ground between Suarez and * Pukki, we're not even attempting to reach that middle ground.
     
  4. celtic warrior

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    And I have faith they tried because if the board are truly just money whores who want to line their own pockets with fat bonuses then would have been smart enough to give Wanyama the wage he wanted knowing that, that wage and a slightly longer contract would mean the £12.5mill we got could have meant near £17mill.

    The board would not be stupid enough to through away the chance to earn that type of fee
     
  5. wulliebad

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    It would have taken epl wages to keep him and we don't have that.
    These players are not daft and their agents know what sort of money we can afford to pay they do not come here thinking...ok if i do well new contract and big money.
     
  6. evilbunny1991

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    The board and renegotiating contracts, it is generally left quite late, even izzy and lustig we were waiting till near the end of the season before they signed extensions. The running of the club does concern me, how lax we are.
     
  7. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    I dont even go along with this line. I believe the board have the best intest of the team at heart. I do believe though they err a little too much on the side of caution. As I stated earlier I think they live too far within the constraints of their budget rather than living on its edges. They seem to be always saving for a rainy day when they can produce wads of emergency money from under the mattress.
     
  8. wulliebad

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    Well according to reports players are turning us down and we are having to go for the cheaper guys who see celtic as a step up and not a step down.
    I don't think its all the clubs fault for not spending enough it is also in part about where we are and what the splfplf offers.

    Pukki was not our first choice but he is the first guy who said yes.
     
  9. oh bhoy

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    it alarms me that so few of our players are seen as good enough to represent their country.celtic had 3 players at this years world cup ,france 98 celtic sent the most players of any club team to the world cup .
    the decline in the standards of a player is there for all to see .regi blinker seen as a joke figure would walk into our team right now
     
  10. wulliebad

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    As evilbunny said in a different thread they may be throwing huge money at the
    30 million loan we have currently.
    It would save so much * if the board would just let the fans know if this was the case.
     
  11. wulliebad

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    We have 70 internationalists at Under 21 level and below what worried me more than anything is what happens to these guys to end up getting punted out on loan or sold...what is wrong at celtic when so many don't make it into a plfplf team.
     
  12. Gabriel Beidh an lá linn Gold Member

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    You mean we cannot attract any player valued over £3million.

    Ironically I would be happy if were interested in £3m players. Anything over this would need to be a one off as I do not think we could afford the wages associates with these players on top of the fee.
     
  13. AwesomeCaz

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    We got Pukki last year because Lawwell wouldn't back Lenny enough to get his actual target, Finnbogason. We could have had him on a plane within 15 minutes of offering them his worth and their asking price - just over 5 million. So Lenny and the rest of us had to settle for second best.

    But no, as usual we took the incredibly cheap option, which has actually worked out costing us more because Pukki and Balde's transfer fees and wages, plus their chronic shitness, has worked out more than Finnbogason would have.

    I know no-one is a guaranteed success but the likes of Hooper, Stokes and Finnbogason had proven goal records at a couple clubs and were as guaranteed as we could get.

    Our lack of ambition is * sickening. Push the boat out a little ffs!
     
  14. Mannix

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    You're not factoring in the CL money which we got over the last 2 season, which wasn't there for the previous 4 seasons. Our financial model did not seem to reflect that extra money that came in via CL qualification.
     
  15. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Did your uncle - the journo - tell you this anaw? :rolleyes:
     
  16. Mannix

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    This.

    We are not asking for the board to splash the cash, we are asking them to push the boat out a little. Now that it's unlikely we'll qualify, the chances of that is more remote, we've missed the boat to push the boat out so to speak.

    The op makes some valid points, but he's a little too "on message" with regards the boards fiscal policies. He's not telling the whole story.


    Lies, * lies and statistics come to mind.
     
  17. wulliebad

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    Well depending on what you read celtic did offer their asking price but they decided to increase it some days later to close to 10 million.

    Then there was the guy we offered the clubs asking price of 4 million euro only for the player to go.....splfplf...hahaha...no thanks.
    It is not always the clubs fault and in this case they did try and get other player in before pukki.


    So its great when we get hooper and stokes but when finny didn't work our the club is penny pinching * who don't back the manager.......can't have it both ways.
     
  18. Mr. Slippyfist

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    We tried to sign Marko Arnautovic (something like that), made an offer that was accepted (think the £4m is aboit right), and he basically told us to go to *.

    Fair enough people want to blame x,y and z for all the negatives around, but I think some people are like wee jack russells wae a squeeky bone when it come to their blaming of people who they clearly no not a lot of what has gone on....
     
  19. wulliebad

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    That's the *.
     
  20. oh bhoy

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    surely leaving ourselves short by selling our best players without have the replacements signed beforehand was idiotic almost as bad as waiting to see if you get into the cl before buying someone leaving yourself about a week and leaving the selling club with all the cards . perhaps the board members have been downsized they clearly arent as clever as some think