i would say aye :54:
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i would say no.
do the players need a kick up the *? i would say aye. -
after braga ross county and last night i agree
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Why?
Would a mentor get the number 7 shirt, get out there and start ripping a new one to the opposition?
The problem last night was ON the park, not off it. The players were second best to every ball, could not string more than a couple of passes together and we were weak in every position and sometimes you just cannot legislate for that, despite every effort to do so. -
100% right mate.:50:
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i would say no he will learn from the european disaters his spl record is still intact and thats what we are concentrating on.
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Are we just going to keep blaming the players? I'm afraid to say, the blame lies with Lennon on this one.
The three most important games he has managed, he has lost. You can blame the players all you want, but the players who lost it for us, are the players Lennon chose. Players don't pick themselves. -
agree with you but that two games now that we have suffered watch celtic being beaten easly the 1st was ross county where we were a shambles all over the park and last night got to say we were truly worse than the ross county game why did lennon drop shaun and play fortune why didnt we play defencely and try and hit on the break i think if he had a mentor beside he could have worked on thattLast edited by a moderator: Aug 27, 2010
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sorry to disagree with this one mate but lenny never set them up to lose 4-0 did he no you could tell he was disapointed in them with the way they were playing. so they need to buck up im afraid. lenny has taken the blame though to protect the players confidence unlike what mowbray done last season -
sometimes it is the players fault. was it lennon that gave away 2 penalties? no, it was the players.
lennon picked pretty much the same team as we suggested in the pre-match thread so you cant blame the loss on the line up. i think what went wrong was that we acted like "aye, job done" when really we were only half way through the tie. -
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He's either good enough for the job or not, to bring in a mentor just makes it a farce, it immediatly undermines the managers position..............
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So despite a player putting in a performance he should be abjectly ashamed of, you want to absolve him of all blame and blame the manager....ridiculous point of view!
The players were put on the park to do a job which none of them done apart from maybe Forrest. The rest of them showed no fight and very little drive at all. On a pitch that was soaked from incessant rain we should have been concentrating on tightening up as soon as we went 1-0 down yet we our players could not seem to put a foot on the ball and slow things down, despite Lennon and Thommo ranting at them on the touchline to do so. We're not talking about schoolkids here, these are highly paid professionals who should have been a lot more clever in their application last night. In my opinion the blame lies with them. -
take it you forgot the braga game, 3 cups games now we have been utter pish
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We played 4-5-1 which should have been perfectly suitable to negate most threats Utrecht put our way, but our players played like the ball was made of fire and kept trying to keep the game at a high tempo when it should have been slowed down as much as possible. There was no reason to play Maloney from the kick off, we weren't chasing the game and didn't need to attack in numbers. We should be good enough to play a short passing game between 4 defenders and five midfielders and move the ball up the park when the need is there, as a pose to humping it up to Samaras who was so isolated he looked like he was going to cry at times.
We didn't need to score, Lennon knew that and set them up not to lose. The problems originate when there are players on the park who believe the game is won before the set foot on the pitch and who also lack leadership. Brown is shocking as a captain and does not deserve the armband. I've been watching Celtic over 30 years and I can honestly say I've never seen a weaker or more anonymous captain. -
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Guys its both the players and manager, its never just one or the other. He should have played Maloney from the beginning why he was dropped for Forrest ill never know. Secondly he fielded an attacking side for a containing game. It was never going to work because the distance between midfield and attack was so big i could have given a whale a home there. Maloney is key for us when linking midfield and attack.
Yes you can say forrest was one of the only ones who were really trying but his lack of experience really told and there was literally no communication between defence to midfield and midfield to attack.
When you play 4-3-3 or 4-5-1 you cannot tell players to do one thing when the formation demands another. The players were terrible last night and have only themselves to blame but they were not aided with tactics which are in the very least debatable and when i saw the line up without maloney i was worried. He is our only player who can hold onto a ball in a tight situation and make something happen.
All in all it was a night to forget, hopefully we can continue our unbeaten run in the SPL but a season without Europe is a * disgrace and Lennon better let the players know this. To answer the question i think for europe lennon needed a mentor but since we are no longer in europe he doesn't need one for the bread and butter SPL. -
he played forrest because he played very very well at the weekend.
lenny went into the game with the right idea, get a goal and kill the tie early on. if he sat back and "parked the bus" then it would be a matter of time before we conceded, atleast we had a chance with the way he set up. -
he needs a huge whip, that will be more use than a mentor
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Was a * 4,5,1 catch them on the counter and dont concede (negative bullshit) formation. Line up positively you win games simple. Especially taking last sunday into account.
As for a mentor a few wise words of wisdom could help us out a wee bitty! Maybe teach lennon not to play the game (tie) out! -
Agreed! If that was anyone else in charge other than NL the majority of fans would be baying for blood but bcoz Neil has said al the "right" things ( bring back the thunder etc) nothing much is sticking to him . Dont get me wrong I want him to be a success but I wonder if his inexperience has cost us dear. Maybe he is needing to get some advice and would hope he is nt too proud to ask. Another thing that is majorly * me off is the attitude of some fans that europe does nt count this season. BOLLOCKS!!! Surely a team of celtics standing and prestige should be in the group stages of the europa league!!! Not too much to ask. I bet as well that our players are paid far more than thier dutch counterparts lastnight. I can handle getting beat but the manner in which we were beaten lastnight is not on. I pray to * that neil gets this right coz if he does nt where the * do we go from here
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