Desensitization

No you're not. I have no desire to watch two women eating * out a cup, someone being mutilated with hammers and screwdrivers or people being beheaded.

Why anyone would want to watch these things is quite beyond me.

 

Ah don't you know * and women being equal are just as bad, if not worse, than most of the stuff on the dark web.... :smiley-laughing002:

 

It was not a parody you personally but the general philosophy of modern man. I do not think it will get that bad—* has a habit of checking us when we get a little too out of hand—but the philosophy held by so many people in western society most certainly lays the foundations for the most vile depravities of the human mind to become accepted. Objective morality has already been overthrown and individualism has been crowned King. It is the logical progression.

Anyway does it matter? We're only a bunch of random cells operating and functioning with no actual value besides a series of chemical reactions. Right and wrong don't really exist, or if they do it only consists in whether or not it concerns the survival of the species. You're too squemish to stand the screams of a woman being tortured? Perhaps you've simply not adapted enough. At least, that's what modern society essentially says.

 

Human nature to be curious about these things. Enjoying them is where the problems start.

Lots of inhumane * on the news every night but we watch that religiously.

 

Sorry your excellency.....it won't happen again. :icon_mrgreen:I'm such a fuddy duddy when i'm tryin to shread it with the youngsters.:smiley-laughing002:

 

Back to your cave now! Stop oppressing me with your 1990s values and morals. *, when will these adults get off my back?

 

Fantastic point.

I dare say in lifetimes gone by, there was a far higher likelihood of violence and destruction as a percentage of the population than there is now.

We probably are shocked by these things because we are protected. These sort of things were probably nothing to people living in 1500s - 1700s in all honesty.

I don't like the idea of totally blanketing these things because this is real life it happens. No point in living a sheltered and ignorant life. But I wouldn't go as far as saying watch loads of these videos. Certainly not enjoy them, as Sean said that is where the problem would begin. It is human nature to be curious.

 

True.

Like slaves, they were probably raped, battered, whipped and stuff everyday by * who just thought it was normal behaviour back then to get them to work harder. Not realising how brutal and mental it was.

 

Does it?

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Freedom of the individual does not logically progress to depravity. That's nonsense.

 

I wouldn't even say I'd be majorly shocked if I watched something like that though, not to the point of vomiting or crying or anything like that anyway. I'd be shocked but not paralysed with it. I just flat out refuse to watch things such as the examples which have been mentioned because they don't sit well with me from a moral point of view and respect for those people suffering in them. Although I'm definitely one of those people who always thinks, "imagine that was me or someone close to me" so I base a lot of things such as this on that viewpoint.

 

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Gonna give me a shout when glowsticks and whistles make a comeback for the third time

 

This would be true if atheists followed their beliefs through to their logical conclusion but, generally speaking, they don't. People are definitely more nihilistic and hedonistic than before, but there's developed a kind of secular morality that pumps the breaks on any really choice behaviour. If anything, in the atheist age people are more dispassionate and tame than in entire previous human history.

 

Well..........that's not quit accurate. Sure we hear about horrific things on the news like wars, murders, child abuse etc but we don't actually see it being done. If we did I suspect viewing figures for the news would be considerably lower. Most people, quite rightly, do not want to see these things because they are abhorrent and once you've seen them it is hard to forget them.

 

I've no desire to sicken myself watching those videos either. But, on the flipside, desensitisation can be a form of strength. If you're easily shocked or scared, that's essentially a form of weakness that could * you over at some stage. I don't want to hold any illusions about what the world is like or what it should be like. If you know it's * up, you're well prepared.

 

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What should we look out for,another flood?

 

Oh atheists certainly don't follow through with the logical conclusions to their beliefs. But they are laying the groundwork for the collapse of future generations. The current limp-wristed secular morality you mention will not last because it is essentially hollow and worthless. It is the construct of a generation that has saw how royally they * society up and realised it all too late. Already it is being challenged and it does not stand up to any serious scrutiny.

I have to disagree with you on the last part. I do not think people are more tame in today's day and age. Dispassionate? Yes. It takes a rather cold mind to end the lives of thousands are the mere push of a button.

But man has not come any further than he was centuries ago. He can just do it all again in new and shiny ways.

This position inherently carries with it the fact that you can't really label anything as depraved.

 

In principle... yes.

 

remember years ago at work all the young guys had thae videos on their phones an a couple of the older guys seen them but straight up I refused to see them ... then one youngster came in one day with a video of his girlfriend stripping an then gieing her it big style .. again I didn't watch it ... been greeting ever since she was a wee honey .

 

I agree humanity isn't progressing, in light of the fact it has nothing concrete to aim for. For all the criticisms you can make of religion, it unites people in striving towards something higher and better than themselves. Society has largely lost or is losing that, and is becoming more shallow and hedonistic.

On another note, whilst I agree secular morality is flimsy and entirely baseless, that doesn't seem to bother the many people that adhere to it regardless. Perhaps morality was only ever a social cue, a justification for actions, rather than a genuine motivation behind them. People have discarded the bits of Christianity they don't like, and have repackaged the bits they do like. The basis of them is for the timebeing at least seemingly irrelevant.

 

No... No, it definitely doesn't. I can label things as depraved. Would you like me to?

You may be a brilliant Catholic, North, but I've met better people. The way you constantly condescend to people is demeaning.