Conspiracy Theories

The fact that this man is alive...

...is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit.

Here's why:
1. The man in the picture above is Dylan Avery. To be more precise, the fact that Dylan, his friends, and family are alive, is proof that "Loose Change" is bullshit. He, along with a couple of his friends, created a 9/11 conspiracy video claiming that the US government and the military caused 9/11. Take a closer look at the last part of that last sentence: he's claiming that the US government, for whatever ends, killed nearly 3,000 innocent Americans, and tens if not hundreds of thousands of more lives in the conflicts that ensued because of it.

2. Since Dylan's arguing that the government has no problem killing 3,000 innocent people, this raises the question: if his documentary is true, and we've established that the government has no ethical qualms about killing thousands of its own people, then why wouldn't the government kill Avery and his friends as well? What's a few more lives to them to ensure the success of this conspiracy?

Whatever reason it may be that the government supposedly orchestrated this conspiracy, it must have been worth it to them to cause so much suffering and loss of life. So if there's any truth to this, then you can bet your * that the government wouldn't let a couple of *-neck chumps with a couple of Macs and too much time on their hands jeopardise their entire operation by letting this stupid video float around on the Internet.

I can picture you morons emailing me now: "BUT MADOX, MAYBE DYLAN POSTED IT ON THE INTERNET BEFORE THE GOVERNMENT HAD A CHANCE TO REMOVE IT LOL." Yeah, too bad this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's *-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation?

The US government has the capability to monitor every electronic communication made anywhere in the world, yet we're expected to believe that they wouldn't be able to nix this kid long before his video ever became popular?


Rant courtesy of maddox.

 

As someone who's been around Navy SEALs his whole life, I'd have to agree with that reasoning. It would not be hard for them to slip in very quickly for a quick "extraction" mission and never be heard from again. Then you have Delta Force, where nobody even knows what the * they are. SpecOps would have got to him long before he gained fame.

 

however, don't you also think it would be a little odd if this scenario happened.

Nerd releases some interesting facts about 9/11 turns it into a movie type of thing, is famous worldwide, Nerd then is not seen by family or friends for 8 months.

if he were to die so soon after that coming out, at such a young age, is just going to make people say, why was he murdered ?

 

Not really no, as this rebuttal is inconsistent with the premise of Dylan's *-festival of a movie: that the WTC was brought down "in a carefully planned and controlled demolition ... and it was pulled off with military precision." Now we're expected to believe that the same government that was able to commit the largest terrorist operation in history--with military precision no less--is suddenly too incompetent to sniff out and shut down a little website set up by some college losers within days, if not minutes of its creation?, the fact that the website alone stayed up is proof its *.


Plus they could make it look like an accident or some * like that, make his maw crash the car.

 

He would have been found out during his research. The government has the ability to track our interned research, history, etc. If they see this guy is looking for stuff it doesn't like, they take him out before he is even able to put this stuff up. If they cared, they could have nicked this before it came out.

 

why didn't they stop it from coming out though, surely they wouldn't want the public to even hear any of those suspicious facts, regardless of it being the truth or not.

i personally believe the US Government know more than they let on, like a plane flying into the pentagon, yet no remains what so ever were found of a plane.

and the explosions you clearly see when the towers were collapsing.

 

Because its bullshit and they don't care what a small percentage of conspiracy nuts think, they have more important stuff to spend time and resources on.

 

The same reason they found virtually none of the wall... or gasoline... all the fuel burned and virtually vaporized anything in the area. My Dad worked in the Pentagon starting in January 2002, and there have been people who said they heard something just before the impact... ie a plane. It's just that the anti-conspiracy theorists aren't as vociferous because they don't think anybody takes the other side seriously.

And they didn't do anything to him because he's wrong... Lol. I'm going to pretend like you didn't just ask why the government didn't abduct a citizen because they disagree with what he said. There have been conspiracy theorists throughout the history of the country, and they don't usually get kindnapped and held against their will.

Take my word for it... if this was true they would have sent Delta Force, who will do anything their superiors tell them. These are guys who literally live with their suitcases packed, not knowing if they will be in Afghanistan, Colombia, or their own bed tomorrow night.

 

in fairness i believe most of Loose Change is bollocks, but i still feel their is so many weird things that happened that day, which makes it look like the US Government did play a part.

 

idealize-To make or envision as ideal.

Considering what most socialists believe about the "ideal" society I would say that while both definitions fit well I would use "idealize" over "idolize"

Yes I was exaggerating. Just like saying USA is an "evil empire" .

BTW why didn't any of you socialist Chavez * smokers respond to my other points? How many of you work at a corporation of some kind? How many of you have never actually been activists to make the world a better place?

If either of the previous are true then STFU or move to Venezuela and find how much the people there really enjoy socialism when they live in extreme poverty in an oil rich country. I gotta love the internet idealists.

 

Oh, btw, you both spelled idolize wrong as well

They don't teach you modern political figures, word definitions, or spelling?

 

Is that the only point you or the writer of this can come up with to disprove the "theory"? Of course the government could take him out easily, but they know that by killing these people they would only create martyrs which is the last thing they need. If everyone (especially famous people like Alex Jones, Charlie Sheen and now this guy) who publicly spoke out about or made documentaries about 9/11..was suddenly murdered, would that not only raise a few eyebrows to say the least and emphesize the point that government are hiding something and are desperate to keep stuff quiet?

I find that argument quite..daft actually.

 

Yeah, I think the US government only played a small part.


The rest was planned by the Jews and aliens. It's all on youtube.

 

As I stated earlier, the US Government can track what its citizens do on the internet. If they were really that hung up about it, red flags would have gone up when he started getting beyond some of the more rational concerns. The point isn't that they would have gotten him after the fact, it's that they would have got him before anybody knew who this guy was. If you don't think that's possible, then, well, you're wrong.

 

Also look at the pic of the guy, he looks too much of a daft * to have found anything.

 

Even if they did happen to know that this young lad was releasing a documentary I doubt very much that they would have predicted just how popular it would be.

 

You sir are brilliant in my opinion.
The whole loose change thing is *... but the reasoning provided why it's bollocks (up to this point) is at the same infantile level of reasoning as the "documentary" itself.
No self-respecting evil * would ever just kill the peddler of what is, de facto, a conspiracy theory. Doing so only gives it credence. You laugh it off and label it a conspiracy theory. * standard operating procedure... do you people even pay attention during elections?

Since you threw out your "been around US Seals all my life" line earlier, I'll throw my "been a US Marine with security clearance I don't feel like discussing but will name drop anyway" line.
No. They wouldn't find him beforehand. Just look at how many people out there think there are conspiracy theories behind 9/11. Most of those people are on the internet. The way the internet is currently ran, it will never help government find or do anything... it merely muddles the water on a massive scale. Nobody knows * is going on in the internet most of the time, not even the ISPs.

 

Fair enough, when I get on a train of thought I roll straight ahead and don't think my argument clearly (as you were), especially if there isn't someone rational to challenge it, but was your name drop line entirely necessary? I would expect more from you as far as civility.

My point wasn't that they are ultra secret l337 ninja spies, just that if they were told to do something that trivial (relatively), they could.

 

Wasn't really trying to be uncivil. Just wanted to partake in the name dropping.
As an aside, I'd also point out that -- even if they did catch onto him and it was all real, they'd have a hard time offing him and it'd still only cause the masses to wonder what he was up to.
But counter-bullshitting myself, I suppose if the "rabbit hole" is already that deep and widespread... they could cover up anything.
Still, I think it'd be far more innocuous to let him spin his story... label it conspiracy theory... and track who picks up on it. FBI + Library records anyone?

 

Strangely, I happen to agree with this one lol