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Discussion in 'Ex Players' started by Mr. Slippyfist, Feb 19, 2015.

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PaulM1888 Administrator Administrator

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Was that not McManemen that said we should be beating Inter Milan?

Didn't know he said that about Deila either to be fair, I'm mostly thinking about his comments about needing to shore up the defence, good going forward in Europe but need to stop the silly mistakes and conceding too many.

That was his biggest gripe with us, he just says it harshly.

Did he outright say the jobs too big for Deila and he should be sacked?

I did say agrred with al ost everything btw, not everything.
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They were both at it during the Inter game, suggesting we have a divine right to beat a team that was vastly more valuable than ours.

After the Astra game he went on a stupid rant suggesting Deila had lost all credibility and his judgement had to be brought into question because he stated we were a team in progression. He also said it was the most angry he has ever been either watching or being involved with Celtic, a game which we ultimately won This is the same guy that was on the pitch for several worse results and was directly responsible for them.

Deila has since been proven right, Sutton has since been proven to be a reactionary idiot.

PaulM1888, Mar 22, 2015

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Because they played for club doesn't mean they should be immune from criticism when they talk * to sell newspapers.
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This. I found it quite ironic when earlier in the thread some people that have been accused of being unfair towards Sutton were accused of being unable to "separate the player from the hack".

Sutton was a fantastic player for us and I was a huge fan of him on the pitch but tbh I never really warmed to Sutton when I saw him speak either. Then again I can't say I really cared during his playing career as long as he performed on the pitch.

StPauli1916, Mar 22, 2015

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PaulM1888 said: ↑

They were both at it during the Inter game, suggesting we have a divine right to beat a team that was vastly more valuable than ours.

After the Astra game he went on a stupid rant suggesting Deila had lost all credibility and his judgement had to be brought into question because he stated we were a team in progression. He also said it was the most angry he has ever been either watching or being involved with Celtic, a game which we ultimately won This is the same guy that was on the pitch for several worse results and was directly responsible for them.

Deila has since been proven right, Sutton has since been proven to be a reactionary idiot.
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I agreed with him that Astra game, that was at half time, I can remember that. I suspect Deila would have as well to be honest, we were * awful.

I didn't think it was Sutton acting like we had a divine right too, I was getting the impression from him that it wasn't beyond us and he was right, if we want to progress we shouldn't be drawing that game against Inter. We can't keep conceding that many goals in Europe.

Hopefully we keep progressing and that's cut out next season though.

Liam Scales, Mar 22, 2015

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I find it hard to defend Craig Burley but i have in the past. He was a massive part of stopping their 10. He really was. Nothing will ever change that. Separate the hack from the player
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I think the only person struggling to separate the player from the hack is yourself. You are blinkered because of how you have viewed them as players, and it's clouding your judgement of them as pundits in my opinion. Sutton and Burley were both good players for us, but have been arseholes when they have been pundits I feel. I have separated both.

murphy88, Mar 22, 2015

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I agreed with him that Astra game, that was at half time, I can remember that. I suspect Deila would have as well to be honest, we were * awful.

I didn't think it was Sutton acting like we had a divine right too, I was getting the impression from him that it wasn't beyond us and he was right, if we want to progress we shouldn't be drawing that game against Inter. We can't keep conceding that many goals in Europe.

Hopefully we keep progressing and that's cut out next season though.
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He didn't say we were * awful though which would have been factual, he said that was the angriest he has ever been either watching or performing for Celtic.

Which is a complete and utter bullshit statement from a guy involved in many worse performances than one we went onto win 2-1.

PaulM1888, Mar 22, 2015

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Sorry guys, I like big Sutton. Spent about 10-15 minutes chatting to him before his book launch in Belfast. A really mild mannered man and had loads of time to talk to my son about his football etc. I know he's been out of order with some things he said. But for things like hating and bullying the Huns. That goal against Juve. Will always be a club great and I will respect him for that!

packybhoy, Mar 22, 2015

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Thought it might be best to put this here.

BT Sport advertising for Celtic's match against St Mirren saying there is a Chris Sutton interview of Ronny Deila being shown pre-match.

Make him squirm Ronny!

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Glasgow_Bhoy88, Apr 2, 2015

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Glasgow_Bhoy88 said: ↑

Thought it might be best to put this here.

BT Sport advertising for Celtic's match against St Mirren saying there is a Chris Sutton interview of Ronny Deila being shown pre-match.

Make him squirm Ronny!.
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I reckon it will be consistent of Sutton sooking up Deila's * - with Deila giving Sutty "the eye!"!

Mr. Slippyfist, Apr 2, 2015

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Sutton will walk and Ronny will just stare at him, just like in the pic, then when Sutton opens his mouth he'll give him a few Ronny Roars to the jaw.

Glasgow_Bhoy88, Apr 2, 2015

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A proper * licking fest this will be.
Sutton will probably open it with a couple of facts to save face before being all over Ronny, whilst Ronny isn't flustered and ends with a slight chuckle and wink..

McChiellini.., Apr 2, 2015

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Sutton giving it big licks re his interview avec oor Ronny.

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/...hris-sutton-wish-politicians-answered-5451060

FOR the past fortnight I’ve turned the TV on to see David Cameron and Ed Miliband talk politics for the General Election.

You don’t know what to believe at times.

If I was them I’d take a leaf out of Ronny Deila’s book and start talking with the type of refreshing honesty with which he speaks.

Now I’m no Jeremy Paxman but I was delighted to get the opportunity to go and interview the Celtic manager this week.

As part of my work with BT Sport, the chance was there to speak with Ronny ahead of the station’s coverage of tonight’s game against St Mirren in Paisley and it was too good to turn down.

I’ll be honest, I left the interview fascinated by what I had heard.

There are some who have accused me of being super-critical of Deila during this season and I have refuted that constantly. I have been asked to give my opinions and have done so in as honest a manner as I can.

My comments are about games, what I have been seeing on the pitch and when I didn’t feel things were right for Celtic I said so.

So with that in mind I just asked Ronny straight out with my first question if ex-players and pundits annoyed him. That’s what I call an ice-breaker and the answer I got set the tone for the rest of the interview.

Ronny answered directly. No messing about. He told me he’s been in the same position himself in the media.

The perception just isn’t true and Ronny knows that fine well.

He’s never had a problem with me and I’ve never had a problem with him because all I’m doing is talking and observing about a game.

At the start of the season I believed things were not right and made my feelings clear to that end. I used to play for Celtic and hope the club does really well but I’m not going to say everything is great if it’s not and Ronny knows that.

In fairness to Ronny, he came into the Celtic job as a novice, a rookie if you like.

Certainly an unknown to the majority of the Celtic fans and I’m sure there were a few of the players who were asking questions about him. Where did he come from? The same questions as the fans.

The pressure was on from the start as he was following a club legend in Neil Lennon into the job and there is no doubting it was tough at the start.

It was a difficult time as the Champions League results were not great. I think you’ll see full, frank and candid admissions from Ronny on that front during the interview.

And the rest of the interview was more of the same. Ronny spoke with honesty and, more importantly, conviction and I have to say I admired him for that. I got a real insight into him and how things have gone this season.

Ronny spoke about a number of issues which he has not addressed in the past and he was open and honest.

At one point he discussed a turning point in the season and it might surprise you to hear it was the home defeat to Salzburg in November.

In my columns in Record Sport I made references to Ronny’s talk about progression and I wasn’t convinced I was seeing at that point the way
we are all seeing it now.

Ronny was perhaps seeing it on the training pitch but we could only comment on what we could see on the pitch on matchdays.

Myself and the supporters don’t get to watch the training sessions at Lennoxtown every day, so that’s all we can go on.

Ronny knew how he wanted to play but he inherited players who didn’t fit the style and he’s had to mould his team and get his own boys in.

That’s not easy but if you look at the team now, only an idiot would think there has not been a lot of progression from the team at the beginning of the season to the way it is now.

I’d say the signing of the boys from Dundee United in January have helped in that respect and the facts are Ronny could be about to become only the third manager in the history of the club to win the Treble.

Celtic have the strongest squad in Scotland and we all expect them to win the Treble but the players still have to go out and do it.

When you’re commenting as I’m asked to do, I think Celtic are favourites to do it.

If I was in the dressing room, I’d think that as well. They have a great spirit within the group just now and you have to credit the manager for that.

Speaking with him, you could see how he has built that up.

Ronny spoke about his temperament and even though he says he can have the odd rant, he seems a mild-mannered guy who likes to stay in control.

I stood in the tunnel in Milan after the referee had an absolute shocker when Celtic were
eliminated from the Europa League by Inter. Ronny was raging, bubbling inside, but he did the interviews calmly and controlled his emotions.

As well as his temperament, he spoke about arriving at first and his impressions of the club.

He talked about the Rangers situation and his view on whether or not he wants them promoted to the Premiership next season.

It was all really interesting stuff. That’s how I felt listening.

You have to have a bit about you to succeed as Celtic manager, that’s for sure. It’s a high-pressure job and it takes a certain type of character and boss to handle it.

From what I heard this week, Ronny Deila has the attributes to do so.
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Will be interesting to see about his thoughts on the huns.

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shieldsybhoy, Apr 3, 2015

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Good for him. He gets paid to say what he thinks and the evolution in his opinion of Ronny is similar to much of the support. I think he's been wrong on a few occasions but being wrong is not a crime

VikingBhoy, Apr 3, 2015

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Expected nothing less from Sutton.

Perhaps he should have had a bit of empathy for Deila knowing fine well the magnitude of the job he had on his hands rather than absolutely slaughter him at every given opportunity, and also as he knows the pressures of management given the fact that he himself was a failure at Lincoln.

Mr. Slippyfist, Apr 3, 2015

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I wonder if Chris told him if he wins the treble it will be pretty worthless.

Or if he asked him if John Collins did ever pull him aside and told him to stop talking tripe.

Or if he was in danger of losing the dressing room.

Or how he's obsessed about dieting.

Or that his team were a "bunch of no hopers."

Or the his "gut feeling" Ronny wasn't the man for the job (despite knowing absolutely * all about him.)

Once again, * Chris Sutton (the pundit.)

Roy's Keane, Apr 3, 2015

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I wonder if Chris told him if he wins the treble it will be pretty worthless.

Or if he asked him if John Collins did ever pull him aside and told him to stop talking tripe.

Or if he was in danger of losing the dressing room.

Or how he's obsessed about dieting.

Or that his team were a "bunch of no hopers."

Or the his "gut feeling" Ronny wasn't the man for the job (despite knowing absolutely * all about him.)

Once again, * Chris Sutton (the pundit.)
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Aye, there seems to be a lot of backtracking from Sutton. It was not so long ago he was trying to diminish what winning the treble would mean, yet now he is talking it up. Sutton also played in the best team in the country for more than O'Neill's first season, yet only managed to win the 1 treble. The fact is, it's a hard thing to do, because cup games can throw up shocks. If the favourites won every game, football would be boring.

murphy88, Apr 3, 2015

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Aye, there seems to be a lot of backtracking from Sutton . It was not so long ago he was trying to diminish what winning the treble would mean, yet now he is talking it up. Sutton also played in the best team in the country for more than O'Neill's first season, yet only managed to win the 1 treble. The fact is, it's a hard thing to do, because cup games can throw up shocks. If the favourites won every game, football would be boring.
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Most of us on here have done it. Let's be honest a lot of people where wrong about Deila at the start (Including myself) but most people will hold there hand up and say they got it wrong, something you'll never see from Sutton

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Davie Bhoy, Apr 3, 2015

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/authors/chris-sutton/?pageNumber=1

A lovely link to Mr. Sutton's Daily * articles (excuse the link).

Mr. Slippyfist, Apr 3, 2015

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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/authors/chris-sutton/?pageNumber=1

A lovely link to Mr. Sutton's Daily * articles (excuse the link).
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17th of January 2015.

The turning point of Chris Sutton's articles. Literally all have been positive after that, all were negative before.

shieldsybhoy, Apr 3, 2015

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17th of January 2015.

The turning point of Chris Sutton's articles. Literally all have been positive after that, all were negative before.
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http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/chris-sutton-celtic-no2-john-4456935

This was a belter......
Mr. Slippyfist, Apr 3, 2015

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shieldsybhoy said: ↑

17th of January 2015.

The turning point of Chris Sutton's articles. Literally all have been positive after that, all were negative before.
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To be fair, that's two weeks earlier than a lot of posters here...

VikingBhoy, Apr 3, 2015

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