Chris Sutton

''Izaguirre's worst night in a Celtic shirt'' - big statement, I personally didn't think he was noticeably that bad.

''Dare I say it, maybe Ronny was right to say Inter are on a different level, one level below Celtic was pretty accurate.'' - LOL, don't see how you can say this. Team full of expensive, top drawer internationals vs. a team that's not got that many players bought for over £1mil.

 

It was his worst ever performance for us, i even said the same thing earlier. Everything Sutton says in that article is true and he even praises Ronny, so that group of haters can now be quiet and go find a hobby

 

Did I just read from scootz that, despite only conceding 4 goals in 2015 (of which two were huge goalkeeping gaffes), that we are * at defending?

My * sides.

 

Sutton now questioning the belief of this team? My word! We played that game against inter as committed as ANY celtic team I've seen!

$utton is a * ghoul. No other word for it.

 

He's definitely played worse against worse and lesser opposition many a time and I've watched pretty much every Celtic game, either at the stadium or on TV, since he's been here.

Also, Celtic shouldn't be beating this Inter team. We should be getting absolutely rattled. They have far far far superior players than us.

 

Really cant stand the * now. He's far worse than any hun pundit.

 

You miss vital concepts about modern football and where Celtic are as a club.

If a player wants to leave and we get the right offer at the right time then it will happen. Whether we like it or not.

If we take Virgil as an example. Signed for £2.6m two years ago and two years into a four year deal.
The club made it clear during the last two windows he is going nowhere.

We will welcome bids in the summer £10-£12m. He has made it clear he wants to leave and if he stills feels like this after this season, the deal should be done.

SPL is a shop window for the EPL , unfortunately. However it does help us attract top players.

We have no TV revenue and unless we reorganise our game our buisness model won't change anytime soon.

 

That is patronising to be honest. I am not advocating spending 30m on players or anything like it. You mention our lack of revenue, tell me why it is a good idea to sell VVD in the summer when the CL money is 20m+. We do not have his replacement at the club. Sell him on deadline day when our fate is decided. Anything else is idiotic. In fact all youse boys were bumming about the last accounts so you know full well that we can sell him as i suggest and keep proven players like Gudetti and Ledley.

 

You can talk about patronising posts.:smiley-laughing002:

I've never bummed about our accounts but we have balanced the books that's not a bad thing. Let's not get into the Ledley debate again.

Getting a player in for £2.6m and selling on for 10 or 12m is good Buisness.

If we can sell Virgil after the qualifiers then all the better, players hold the power and we need to buy and sell on. There will never be a good time to sell Virgil.

 

We've seen before what happens to certain players when they want a move. A disinterested VVD is a dangerous gamble to play on. These decisions don't happen in a vacuum. VVD is not guaranteed to play to his potential after rejecting "reasonable" bids. We are not guaranteed to make the CL group stages with him in the back four. We are one of the only clubs in the world that is run in a sustainable way. I also have a hard time with the corporate hate when many of our players make more than Lawwell. That's not exactly typical corporate structure and not indicative of an organization that just wants to reward those in charge.

 

I dont really keep track of names on here and i thought you were a part of that wee gang who go through my posts with a fine tooth comb. If you're not, grand.

Yes i agree selling for 10-12m is good business. It will still be good business if we do this on deadline day rather than in June. We absolutely have the power to do this and it is what we should be doing from now on. The gambling of European qualification has to stop, that's all i'm saying

 

Good post.

 

Of course it doesnt guarantee qualification but it improves our chances. If he goes in June there is a high chance of Efe and O'Connell playing these games. We have seen with Virgil and Molokoko that starting new signings in these games is risky. I know the Lawwell hipsters canny wait for the next big profit but it is good business to keep him for these games as it gives us a much better chance to get into europe and the tv money that comes with it

 

The same time when Forster left would be ideal, it will depend on Virgil's attitude, he had to be left out of the Dundee game because his head wasn't right, might not be worth the gamble if he has his mind elsewhere.

Difficult one to manage. Anyway we've taken this well off topic.

Sutton what a *.

 

No. That is the worst time that means we will be going into the playoff game without our best defender. This is the kind of * that can cost you your place. Sell him at the final whistle of our 2nd leg playoff if we must, no sooner

 

No we knew our fate at the end of that game, that's what I mean. Although our fate did change, bizarrely.

 

You're completely ignoring the part about Virgil not being there 100%. It would be nice if the club held the cards, but they do not. As far as the risk and the chances, it's true but in your scenario there's too much gambling.

And I don't think you know what a hipster is.

 

Is it people who think it is cool to belittle Neil Lennon and Kris Commons?

That is insane my version eliminates the gamble from the situation by playing it safe, selling him and hoping for the best is the very definition of a gamble.

 

It's not because, again, VVD has shown that he goes missing in games when his head isn't in it. Wanyama was quite similar in that regard. And if we lose then his price goes down as clubs will know we need the money more. The difference in Europa League money is not enough to make it worth it. Because, to be fair to you, if all of the play-offs for the Champions League ended before the transfer window then I'd agree wholeheartedly. That gamble would be worth it indeed.

 

There is a couple of days between the play off and the window closing you know