Chris Sutton

Unbelievable how someone who claims to love the club can slag off the players and manager for trying to connect with the support. What the * is wrong with this world? Jesus christ I nut my pants seeing the players enjoy the moment as much as the fans did. This is what the club is about. How can someone call themselves a Celtic supporter and not like that?

 

There are some right bitter immature wee bhoys on Planet Celtic!

Understand that Chris Sutton is not employed by the TV companies to be a Celtic fan-boy. He is employed to analyse the football... a subject that he has forgotten more about than most of us will ever know!

He gets our games because he has good insight into the club and the expectations of the fans.

He played in a very high quality Celtic line-up... one that was a much higher caliber than the current line-up. He has very very high standards and is man enough to express them.

Let him be his own man FFS and stop getting miffed just because he doesn't *-off to all things Green and White like some on here demand he should!

So he's dour and unemotional... I get that. But he always has been. Henke used to rip him rotten because of his dull-ness. Get over it!

The same goes for most ex-Celts on the TV. They're trying their best to be un-biased professionals, but still they get pelters from dim-wits who can't distinguish between the ex-player and the pundit! Surely they can't all hate Celtic as much as some on here profess... or are these people just being a tad sensitive?

 

Good man great post

 

He blamed Ronny for the goals and the mistakes on Thurs but it was individual errors by Gordon and Izzy.
Do you think it's easy to win treble? Why would you not think that this was a good acievement in your first year a the club?
Why criticise Ronny and the team for showing team spirit and thanking the fans for their support.

He has an agenda no doubt his analysis is unprofessional and dim-wits on here can't see it because he was a great player for us.

 

Bingo

I understand where scootz is coming from but it's not like that.

 

Well Ronny has admitted that his defence was too stretched and we gave them too much space.

 

That is true but that wasn't what caused the goals. First one was a terrible mistake by Gordon, second was a freak goal that ricocheted off van dijks chest straight into Palacios feet and went through Gordon's legs, and the third was a freak accident by Gordon.

 

Aye but mistakes wer made organising the defence. I'm not proud of it but i actually called it long before the game. We should be more clever with how we use our full backs. That was Izzys worst game for us, as we were exposed down his side all game pulling VVD out of position. In a roundabout way i'm glad it happened because we are still in the tie with a decent change of progressing and it will teach Ronny about the tactical step up with european teams

 

In not debating that, but the goals were not Ronnys fault.

 

They did expose Izzy, but that's not what we're discussing Sutton blaming Ronny for the goals, when it was individual errors.

Do you think he has been fair in his analysis?

 

Well it is true that individual errors were more to blame for the actual goals but Ronny himself has said that the defence was to stretched which may have put us in those positions in the first place. It should also be noted that we were not punished on occasions when they could have done more. It doesnt matter though it is all a learning curve and I am glad that there is no major harm done. I am sure that we will be more prepared for the qualifiers next year and we still have a good chance of going through, so happy days

 

I watched the game just lad so i can only read what has been attributed to him in print. I disagree with some things he said but he does have a point about our defence which the manager acknowledges. Perhaps if our full backs were more cautious we may have had more cover and an extra out ball and we may never have conceded those goals. Its all water under the bridge though, the important thing is that we make sure not to go 2 down after 12 minutes again.

As for Sutton he was immense for us and no matter what he does nowadays i will never have a bad word to say about him, i honestly think he is a big Celtic man and it hurts him to see us not doing as well as we could be. Like me he had concerns about Ronny especially regarding how easy we were to hit on the counter and like me if Ronny does the business for us then Big Sutton will give him the praise he deserves.

 

You can analyse the goals conceded all you like and come to the conclusion that these were 3 individual lapses, but you're forgetting that for most of the match our defence was a complete shambles. We only kept out more because our attack was our best form of defence and Craig Gordon made amends with some fine saves!

So as far as I'm concerned, Sutton is right - we are * when defending and Ronny has to take the blame for that. An example is that he apparently either allows VVD to roam forwards whenever he likes, or he can't instil a level of defensive discipline in the player to stick to his core duties. We usually get away with this against Kilmarnock, etc, but we sure as * won't when facing quality European opposition. Inter were poor and they took the * on a few occasions!

It was great match to watch and it left me buzzing. But there's no denying that we should have beaten Inter in that leg. We were definitely the better team on the night and I was left with a feeling of disappointment - probably similar to that expressed by Sutton. I can therefore understand why a top pro like he was thinks that it shouldn't have been celebrated so highly, but then I also understand why some enjoy the 'theatre' of the Ronny Roar.

And of course a domestic treble isn't easy, but we should be expecting to pull it off. We have an embarrassment of riches in comparison to our SPL (lack of) competition.

 

I like the fact that our players, manager and fans have a unique connection that's not seen elsewhere in British football and rare on the continent.

 

I agree with everything you said, i would add though that i wasnt disappointed after the match considering we were 2 down after 12 minutes but in retrospect we should have won it. It is a good lesson for Ronny Delia and i'm glad he didnt have to learn it in another qualifier.

 

There is no balance to his comments tho, Sutton and a lot of the media want Ronny to fail. He was so vocal against him he can't seem to give any praise when it's due.

His comments are embarrassing. He has a platform to speak about our club, there were probably a lot of neutrals watching on Thurs and he focused on the negatives, and insinuated we have a small club mentality.

I've had enough of him, regardless of what he achieved as a player.

 

Hard to believe Sutton's comments on Thursday night. As for McManaman go an get a hair cut you plonk

 

Based on what is going on in this forum and in particular in another thread today then he is right to insinuate a small club mentality because that is exactly how some people are. You get ridiculed and mocked for wanting to keep your best players and build a team, while all they think about is how much profit will we make on our next sale. These people actively want the team ripped apart every season, so they can lord it over the zombies. Look at our bank balance is their trophy now, the football is a sideshow

 

I'll admit he's been too critical and a bit of a *, but i and lion were pointing out the nonesense about how he is never positive, a phrase that gets thrown about a lot on here.

When we lost to DU he said we didn't deserve to lose, he is calling it the way he sees it. He's a fan just like us. People will always have different opinions on celebrating like we do after games, it's just the way it is.

I for one am all for it

 

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