1. Having trouble logging in by clicking the link at the top right of the page? Click here to be taken to the log in page.
    Dismiss Notice

Celtic Vs Chivas Of Gaudalajara Offical Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by regicfc, Jul 13, 2006.

Discuss Celtic Vs Chivas Of Gaudalajara Offical Thread in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. KevF2416

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2006
    Messages:
    1,224
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Fav Celtic Player:
    John Hartson, Alan Thompson
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Celtic Symphony
    Doesn't help once you get the ball and see Miller making pointless run's.

    But you do make a good point. We should always remember Neil Lennon when we talk about the defence. I really don't think he dominates the area like he should.
     
  2. madtim1967

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    1,560
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Glasgow,Springburn
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Gravesen/ VOH / JIRI / Maloney/Mcgeady/Naka
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Youll Never Walk Alone
    also add petrov .. get him sold asap... he doesnt want to be here with us so why try and keep him pointless ..the non trying * thats the main reason the midfield wont function ... did ya see him in the last couple games...fear of injury his big money move .... also no naka and lennon as yet ... hence no midfield.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 13, 2006
  3. Champagne Chaz

    Joined:
    Jun 2, 2006
    Messages:
    67
    Likes Received:
    0
    Would agree about Miller, he's reminding me of Paueletta of Portugal, runs about like a headless chicken and is lost when the ball comes near him.

    I am of the opinion that if you are getting beat by 4 goals the primary source of the problem is midfield, obviously you are being dominated in that area for this to happen in the vast majority of cases. Not to say there are not other weaknesses of course
     
  4. hubert

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2005
    Messages:
    2,359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    las vegas nv
    Fav Celtic Player:
    willie fernie & Shunsuki Nakamura
    Fav Celtic Song:
    for its a grand auld team to play for
    Lesser opposition, who are you kiddin? :56:
     
  5. KevF2416

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2006
    Messages:
    1,224
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Fav Celtic Player:
    John Hartson, Alan Thompson
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Celtic Symphony
    DC Untied are a good outfit be we are Glasgow Celtic. We will be playing in the world's best competion, and that was our best team who played the first half.

    United also made numberous subs and still made as look like fools.

    And the 2 Polish teams aren't the best.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 13, 2006
  6. Gaffney

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,875
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Falkirk
    Fav Celtic Player:
    JVOH
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA
    chaz is right look at the highlights the midfield does nothing to slow them down expecally lennon none of them challenge them we need a good big challenging defense midfielder to replace lennon who wants to attack but does'nt keane retireing was a bigger blow than I ever thought

    To read on the roles and how important the defensife midfield follow this link
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midfielder#Defensive_midfielder


    And this one for the overall midfield it describes out situation
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Midfielder

    Some extracts if you can't be bothered


    Their main function is to keep possesion of the ball and feed it to strikers.
    This has not been happening

    Some other function are to defend or tackle against opposition.
    Not been happening

    Some of the skills that a midfield needs is to be able to tackle be a good dribbler and passing

    Have you ever see lennon dribble the ball for more than 10-15 seconds I have'nt or not very often he just get pressured and does a pass to the wingers

    Also what we need is a attacking midfielder petrov is ment to be one but never does his job or does'nt get the ball when he does his job

    A attacking midfielders job is to practically spit the defence thats where playing through the hole comes from this is what ronaldinho,pele,maradona,scoles,zidane,figo but we can't afford them I have not seen jarsoki play much but I hope he is able to do the job

    So the question do we need a defense midfielder or a midfielder

    I think we need a defensife midfielder to allow the rest of the team to play more aggresife game.

    So a person who sits back and breaks up any oncoming attacks so the defence can handle it.


    Strachan is right we don't need to invest in defence its midfield and a experienced striker would do us good
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 13, 2006
  7. hubert

    Joined:
    Dec 31, 2005
    Messages:
    2,359
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    las vegas nv
    Fav Celtic Player:
    willie fernie & Shunsuki Nakamura
    Fav Celtic Song:
    for its a grand auld team to play for
    Thats the problem son, we dont have backing on the fitba side, we are a Scottish team in a poor league the SPL, you will be telling me next that Scotland are a better team than the USA.
    You and I both want Celtic to be the best, but sorry it aint going to happen.
    We nearly got Bellamy, but thats the operative word nearly!
     
  8. KevF2416

    Joined:
    Apr 24, 2006
    Messages:
    1,224
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Glasgow
    Fav Celtic Player:
    John Hartson, Alan Thompson
    Fav Celtic Song:
    Celtic Symphony
    The ability of the national teams are irrelvant.

    But I would agree with you with everything else. Unless the board release money to GS and he spends wisely we will do well to finish 3rd next year.
     
  9. Shaydee

    Joined:
    Jul 13, 2006
    Messages:
    60
    Likes Received:
    0
    DC only has a budget of about $2 million for players to put it in perspective.


    As for Chivas, they are a good side. They just sold their best player, Carlos Salcido, to PSV. The players to watch out for are #9 Omar Bravo, #100 (yes 100) Adolfo Bautista, #7 Gonzalo Pineda, and #11 Ramon Morales. All but Bautista were on their World Cup squad and played big roles for them. Their goalkeeper Oswaldo Sanchez is being held out due to injury.

    Interesting fact about Chivas is that they employ only Mexican born players. They have a large fanbase in the New York area so there should be a large crowd of Mexicans there.
     
  10. Gaffney

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,875
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Falkirk
    Fav Celtic Player:
    JVOH
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA
    its strange how there are two chivas a mexican one and a american one the american one has players from the mexican one and the american one plays during the summer and the mexican one plays at the sam time as the epl spl confusing
     
  11. Gaffney

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,875
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Falkirk
    Fav Celtic Player:
    JVOH
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA
    next game I hope I will be seeing a class midfield hopefully
    the best we have probably got that we could play is

    .................mcgovern................

    ..Telfer..mcmanus..varga...wilson..

    naka.....Jaroski.....Sno.....maloney

    ............magic......miller.............
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 14, 2006
  12. fiferjim

    Joined:
    Apr 23, 2005
    Messages:
    1,736
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Fife
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Naka
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA
    Depends who they have in there team can't see it being our i'm afraid
     
  13. Gaffney

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,875
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Falkirk
    Fav Celtic Player:
    JVOH
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA
    why need to keep our faith beleving that we can win prediction 2-1 to celtic if boruc is in goals and we play a good midfield
     
  14. Pioneer

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2005
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    Fav Celtic Player:
    could be Boruc
    Fav Celtic Song:
    all of them :-)
    I thought Boruc, Zurawski and Nakamura did not go to the US?
    Is it possible that they could play on friday?
     
  15. gibby150

    Joined:
    Jun 29, 2006
    Messages:
    502
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    motherwell
    Fav Celtic Player:
    brown,,skippy ,sammy
    Fav Celtic Song:
    walk on,willie maley
    they wont play until the everton game im sure, hope im wrong they are badly missed,in my eyes big bobo is missed BIG time....
     
  16. Gaffney

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,875
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Falkirk
    Fav Celtic Player:
    JVOH
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA
    Hope they don't they need 2 get some match fitness first
     
  17. Conorcfc

    Joined:
    Jul 18, 2005
    Messages:
    3,458
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Belfast, Ireland
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Aiden McGeady, Jan Vennegoor of Hesselink, Shunsuke Nakamura, Artur Boruc
    Fav Celtic Song:
    You'll Never Walk Alone
    It's a Training Top mate.
     
  18. mikeybhoy

    Joined:
    May 14, 2005
    Messages:
    4,757
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Edinburgh born in Glasgow!
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Di Canio,larsson,hartson,sutton,etc
    Fav Celtic Song:
    youll never walk alone,HailHail
    Why doesn't GS use Michael McGovern in goal instead of DM for this match even if its only the 1st half he might play great or he might be crap only but time will tell,Strachan has tried lots of different things why not change the goalie as we can't get Boruc untill we get back to CP.

    hopefully the bhoys will be fired right up for this match this would be my starting 11

    McGovern(1st half or even the second)
    Wilson,Varga,McManus,Wallace
    Riordan,Jarosik,Lenny,Maloney
    Beattie,Miller
     
  19. Gaffney

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    4,875
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Falkirk
    Fav Celtic Player:
    JVOH
    Fav Celtic Song:
    YNWA
    Is the game tongit
     
  20. mikeybhoy

    Joined:
    May 14, 2005
    Messages:
    4,757
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Edinburgh born in Glasgow!
    Fav Celtic Player:
    Di Canio,larsson,hartson,sutton,etc
    Fav Celtic Song:
    youll never walk alone,HailHail
    Yes well 01:00am-K/O Saturday Morning m8,Some-one will probs.put a link up for people to listen to m8