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Celtic Supporters Thread (contains GB chat)

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Paul67, Dec 17, 2010.

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  1. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    There are plenty more lawyers on the case as well, I just posted a couple of tweets I came across to show that they don't have to "conform" to gain support for the shameful scenes yesterday.

    And I'm sorry did I miss something about a Dublin based journalist being on the case also?

    Oh, she's a tim so clearly she has an agenda as well...
     
  2. Shane1888

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    That is absolute nonsense, although I see what you're getting at.

    Just could have been worded better.
     
  3. Millerntor

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    There have been two Green Brigade corteos to Hampden in the past which the police policed relatively sensibly, not to mention corteos from other Scottish clubs. Then corteos from the city centre to the ground from the like of Rapid and most recently Juventus:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DvkMloR6zAw

    What about permits to march/corteo here, that not matter all of a sudden? I thought they were illegal and justified the police action yesterday? Where was the kettling, 200 police, riot vans, police choppers etc at these corteos?

    Yesterday was clearly a brutal premeditated operation from the police which they had planned for well in advance. Nothing whatsover can justify what they did. The shame is on the police on the ground, those giving them orders, the lawmakers and those who are attempting to justify the police actions yesterday.

    As said, hopefully yesterday is a watershed moment.
     
  4. muffitO'tea

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    So they didn't get permission and posted their proposals online which could have led to thousands turning up? (like those silly facebook girls who post about parties :smiley-laughing002:)
    A bit misguided by them to be honest.

    Still doesn't forgive the actions of the coppers though.
     
  5. TIM O'Brien

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    Don't let the door hit you on the way out then!:bbpd:
     
  6. TIM O'Brien

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    Yep it's looking like that... Infact it was pure stupidity.. Was it pre-meditated in order to get a reaction from the police tho??

    They put out a statement clearly stating there will be a march.. on that statement they encourged people to bring video cameras and use them to record the police, all the while knowing they were breaking the law, and didn't have permission to march. Alough it was a bit OTT the police were always going to react to this!
     
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    I have no idea if she has an agenda. She is a "journalist" most famous for getting her * out after celtic beat Barca. I value your opinion far more than I value hers.

    In any case, to draw a line under this discussion: do you think the GB will win their fight going down the route they are going? And do you think the mass celtic support, and then mass football and non-football world will support them?

    To me the answer is a resounding "no", and this is really all I am arguing.
     
  8. Sean Daleer Ten Thirty Gold Member

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    So because she made a bet to get her * out if Celtic beat Barca and then posted a picture of herself in a Celtic bra means she isn't qualified to comment on this?

    I suppose the MP who went to work in a Celtic top after losing a bet wouldn't be worthy of listening to if she commented on this either?



    Probably not but why should they change, they are not doing anything that warrants this level of attention, harassment and downright bullying.

    People have been supporting Celtic for decades the way the GB support Celtic and never has the spotlight been turned on them so much? Why?

    Because the Government wanted to clean up "sectarianism" and to do that without it being disproportionate as it should be they brought in "OFFENSIVE" behaviour laws, because to go after solely bigoted, racist and/or sectarian views would have seen one group targeted a lot more than any other.

    And we can't have that in Salmonds utopia now, can we...?
     
  9. Paul67 Administrator Administrator

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    Just to get this right, this is what I'm being told today, but I want to know if this is the actual facts as there are conflicting reports everywhere.

    The GB wanted to march to Celtic Park on the roads? They had no license to do this, but tried to do it anyway?

    If this is true, then the leadership of the group want to get their act together. This will attract police presence, although it should never attract the "attention" given by the police.

    If not true, then why the over the top handling by police?

    Just want to know if this is the facts of what happened?
     
  10. Chooxen

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    Be careful not to miss the point. It might have been legal for them to beat women and children about the head with truncheons, but that doesn't make it just. Any law that can be twisted to support hundreds of riot and mounted police harassing normal folk on their way to a game is indefensible. In that context, how legal the police's behaviour was is irrelevant. Laws were made for people and the law can never scorn the right of a man to be free.

    I don't want to see fellow Celtic supporters getting battered and harassed just because the police are legally entitled to do so. If GB were a dangerous, sectarian or violent group, I wouldn't defend them and I doubt anyone else here would.

    The establishment simply don't like their politics and they don't like the idea of a vocal fan group. They want you to pay 40 quid for a seat, pay attention to the sponsorship, buy all the merch and shut the * up. Don't express anything about politics, Irish culture or an opinion about the club or sporting institutions. And if you can't price the riff-raff out, then physically drive them out.

    That's why they're gettin harassed. Any other argument just gives ammunition to people that want to tear the heart out of this club. Whether because they're money-hungry, sectarian or simply a copper lookin to stick the boot in because they can. Don't give them that ammo, withhold your criticism and stand behind your fellow fans.
     
  11. ILoveTheCeltic

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    But even then fans are to be treated like criminals for what they might do?

    Any police could bother anyone then, imagine going into your car and the polis pull up and hassle you about speeding threating to arrest you etc before youve even started the engine.

    If they did walk on the roads then they could step in but to bully and block them in is absolute nonsence. In other countries were people give less of a * like Poland, Turkey, Russia I bet a riot would have started.
     
  12. Artur Boruc #1

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    You'd think it was a group of Celtic fans going to watch their team in the freezing cold weather...
     
  13. ILoveTheCeltic

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    I had hood up and scarf covering my face and got out a motor about 300 yards from the stadium. Wasnt walking from the toon centre or wherever they met up.

    * forbid any of them had weapons like umbarellas on them.
     
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    How anyone can side with the fascists scumbags after they pushed a kid out of his weelchair is behond me. Folks supporting them want to have a good look at themselves!!
     
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  16. Spring Time Gold Member Gold Member

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    Very good Jack:icon_mrgreen:
     
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    Couldn't agree anymore. with everything that happened yesterday I will start my own bhoycott for next home game none of our 4 season tickets will be used this isn't about the gb this is about the celtic support. It will be me and you next for walking up to paradise
     
  18. evilbunny1991

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    A few of you are twisting fans words to make it seem like they support police actions, reminds me of certain scottish newspapers and quotes from Celtic players. Most are simply saying that the GB could have been a bit cuter about how they went about their 'march'

    Anyway the reaction of the police was OTT, you would think they have more serious matters to attend to, like catching real criminals, rapists, murderers etc...

    Classic prioritization in Scotland but it won't change until that bill gets thrown out for the disgrace that it represents. Part of the reason i think this happens is because Celtic pay for the expanded police presence at football matches, its an excuse for the police to fill their coffers by deploying more than double what is really required. That coupled with an abuse of power and you get what happened yesterday.
     
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    If celtic are silent on this issue how come the people arrested are facing banning orders from the football. The arrests where made in the city centre 3 miles away from the ground
     
  20. dmac

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    looking at the size of the crowd on the march it was really over the top policing have seen bigger crowds marching up to celtic park after coming off supporters buses.