Celtic statement

How did the club allow it? Im not being a * but no person or entity can read another persons mind or know that they like touching weans, now adays we have procedures for this stuff like disclosures etc but i doubt that would have been part of the process back then. If someone chooses to commit these crimes it is their fault and no one elses.

 

Demotion down the leagues really? I’m not going to clog up this thread talking about those * but it wasn’t demotion fucksake!

 

aye thats for another day

 

Surely no one within Celtic right now was even at the club when this was happening. Also i was led to believe the two clubs were not officially connected other than the boys clubs asked to use our logo

Can someone explain how the guy has said he will sue Celtic? Surely the horrible individuals involved will be the ones to be sued.

Pray to * the victims get the justice they fully deserve. No place in this world for scum who do things to kids

 

That’s pish tbh, the boys club fed right into our youth setup.. loads of players started at Celtic Boys Club, even played at our training facility at the time Barrowfield.

 

It's a * tragedy what happened. The club is one. No win position here. Be soiled with insults of not caring, about victims or take fiscal responsibility for an event not of their own making or awareness. The club's stance is correct but it's just a shame the way the lawyers are leveraging their position.

 

I always thought it was an unofficial link but I don't know. If that's is the case we are going to have to face this head on

 

Think it’s up to us to take the responsibility. It is a bit of a no win situation tho as it’s impossible to put a price on something like this.

It would also open the door to fraudulent claims too. It’s tricky I get that and you can see why the club has taken the advice of the lawyers, to protect the business.

However for me it’s a stain on our proud history and we should face it head on with transparency and victim focus. There’s no doubt those who ran the club were negligent at that time, so we should find a way of paying for those mistakes. However tough that may be.

 

Maybe mate..

But the Huns refered one of Gordon Neely's victim to their liquidators, trying to wash their hands/shut up shop around it. That was the comparison I was drawing. * victim care and irresponsibility.

We can and should do better than that.

 

I imagine from the club's legal position in this that by offering compensation after the threat of a lawyer would imply guilt? Difficult for them to say "the two clubs aren't officially connected" and "We're happy to pay as we were kind of responsible" at the same time.

As said, the CFC are not responsible for the disgraceful acts of that * Torbett. He had ties to the board at that time, and the lack of clarity around his involvement with them/the club is what makes this situation so hard to deal with.

The one thing the club should've have said in the statement is that the sentence lemgth does not represent justice for the victims.

 

Isn't that Paul's point though?

Neely was a direct employee of Rangers with the alleged abuse taking place within Ibrox. Torbett was not a Celtic employee.

 

In what sense? Victims feel let down by both.

 

Maybe so mate, but there's absolutely no doubt the victims were let down by those who ran the club at the time. And we shouldn't lose sight of that.

 

Even though the Boys club was a separate entity, Celtic and more specifically board members had the influence of change over the boys club. What we need to get to the bottom of is why Torbett was re-instated after getting kicked out years before.

Also for the compensation side of things there's a simple way round the liability issue the club obviously want to avoid and that's to set up a new charity for the abuse victims from any sporting clubs in Scotland then pledge a large amount every year to it.

 

I agree, if there has been a dereliction of duty by custodians of the club to act on allegations made and disassociate themselves from Torbett then I would want that fully investigated and answers given why. There will need to be substantive evidence that was the case though.

 

Those * blabbering on about how Celtic should get punished by the sfa" or "get demoted/titles stripped" are the exact, vile * that use this stuff for point scoring and don't give a *.

 

From a moral standpoint, I agree with him. It’s not officially us but we had a lot of sway within the boys clubs and business links with this * beast. I for one, would like us to face on what the board at the time were responsible for. If the likes of McGinn and Kelly have enabled this behaviour, I’d rather we went after it ruthlessly rather than brush it off as the boys club not being Celtic.

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-46131277

Celtic should not allow people like this lawyer to peddle innuendos like this. If he has evidence of any wrongdoing, he should pass it on to the relevant authorities.

It sickens me that in this case, and others like it, some people are more concerned with money-making and point-scoring than justice.

There is a lot of talk about litigation against Celtic, yet we have yet to hear or see evidence that anyone at the club was complicit in Torbett’s crimes; we only have character assassinations and insinuations.

There is no apparent interest in seeing individuals allegedly complicit in child abuse brought to justice. It’s a disgrace, frankly.