celtic plc interim results - 20th Feb 2009

Well apparently these targets are identified sometimes months in advance, according to GS anyway. Again it's speculation because all we can go on is newspaper reports but if you think about the way we operate, surely it's inevitable that the board will do all they can take make sure we get the best deal possible, which would be to get him signed on a pre-contract.

That's the way they work, which is a great thing most of the time. Not when other clubs come in and nick the player from under our noses though, but that's the chance you take. If it works out then it's a good move, if not then the board have missed the boat.

 

when you stop believing all the excuses for not taking the club forward you let me know,,your willingness to take in (like a sponge)everything the club tell us is laughable..

of course wgs would be happy with his sqaud it was him that put it together ffs,, another pointless point from you..

these men told us money was there to spend in january your pointless point about the recession has nothing to do with it,,the fee was only over the odds because we were trying to get him for zilch,,why not pay some of the available cash on huszti,,who they felt was good enough to pursue in the 1st place........the failings on the huszti saga is the only reason they are trying to get naka to stay on thats a fact,,which you will refuse blatantly to agree with im sure....

we all know that the turnover for the 2nd half of the season is gonna be a lot lower,,no champs league money and worst case scenario no league winning money..

i dont think we should be splashing out big money on players your talking * here and it was mr reid who said we could afford a signing in the scott brown bracket,,huszti would fall into the same bracket but he would have cost about half the price...

you like to go on about murrays and his minnions and the lie's and deciet they tell all but your willing to take anything celtic plc feed you as gospel..

great the club is running well,,but the drivel they feed us about transfers and dealings is unreal at times..

we will see in the summer if we get that scott brown calibre signing in that reid says we can afford,,i wait patiently on this 4-5 mil arrival in the summer........

 

£2.3M to Zenit isnt a big risk for them whereas we have to be certain about the player and we weren't neither were we about Fletcher and therefore weren't that pushed about getting them.

According to Football Manager (dont start :icon_mrgreen, he is a natural AML (Left Winger) and can play through the centre. Football Manager also rates him as a fairly fast winger (not as fast as McGeady) who is good at crossing and corners but is not very strong at all and very weak in the air (5'8")

So he'd need time to adjust to playing on the opposite flank, that doesnt sound like a player thats ready to make an immediate impact tbh.

 

You seem to have some inside info on this, or is this just your opinion?

Its my understanding that nothing was ever released on what we actually bid for Fletcher, any actual amounts reported are pure speculation.

 

You believe whatever you want so :bbpd:

I read the financial statements of both clubs and if I felt that they were lying about something, I'd be moaning too. What the * do you think I have to gain by being a yes man?? Explain that conspiracy theory you have because thats all you got

 

He would make it in our squad mate, you know it. He scored on his European debut for Zenit against Bundasliga opposition (in the 2nd minute).

He can also play as a striker or in either wing, he gives many options to the manager & has pace as well as being able to pick a pass & score a goal.

Here's his goal during the week

vidball: UEFA Cup: Zenit 2-1 Stuttgart

Although it's pretty much a tap in, you can see his reactions & technique are * excellent!

 

Thank you!

Doesn't sound like he woulda went straight in, possibly a long term replacement for Naka.

I would still prefer to see Maloney and Aiden on the wings with naka puling the strings in the middle (if he stays).

What rankles with me is the lack of investment in a left back. Naylor has been rank rotten for almost 2 seasons now. Surely our scouting system could have unearthed SOMEONE better for a coupla million?

Any reports back on the young czech guy - Misun? I try to watch reserve games to get a look at fringe players, but they just bore me to tears
especially since Celtic TV feel the need to show the WHOLE GAME twice a night!

 

conspiracy theory,,would that the fact that they keep telling us the funds are available to improve the team and the fact that they never deliver...

 

I dont know if he would make it as he has alot of adapting to do.

As I said Celtic have a scouting network and we have youtube (or an alternative to youtube)

Danny scored a cracker against Man United in the Super Cup, do you think he's worth €30M?

 

Answer my question first

 

i hope you are right.....but how do you know we didnt need investment....are you now mystic meg?:icon_mrgreen::icon_mrgreen:

we invested last january and it helped.

but as i said,i hope you are right that we didnt need investment this year,but at the minute it looks like we did.

a good solid performance and convincing win tomorrow should set us on our way.

 

C'mon don't give us that *, it's blatently obvious & you must know it.

We're not going to go to a club who plays hardball like Rod Petrie with a * offer, 2.5 million or thereabouts is an educated guess - your being silly if you think otherwise.

It's all there for us to see, we don't need proof - as we'll never get it.

To limit our conversations to FACT would just be pointless, educated & realistic guesses simply must be part of forum life, or there's no point.

 

that is the answer,, you asked for an explanation you got one,,no doubt you'll disagree with this too:bbpd:

 

What I'm saying is that they felt they didnt need to pay over the odds for players given the size of the squad and the main problem is with match practice due to injuries and coming back from injuries.

With Robson, it was a different scenario.

 

You're great at not reading things right tbh, I suppose that explains your overly active imagination

Thats my question, no other.

 

I'm in agreement with you Demps, but I think your missing the point or a least part of it.

The management team wanted the guy in the squad, the board wanted him for free. Zenit paid what we were not prepared to pay.

WGS has already said he has nothing to do with negotiations, he probably sanctioned Huszti as a player he wanted & let Lawell take care of it.

Lawell did what he does, with the club's finances foremost in his mind - played his cards & was beaten by a richer club.

I'm not against this type of (supposed) scenario, as Lawell has a job & does it well.

I just think that with hindsight, Lawell himself would even admit that he made an error this time.

 

You cant over-simplify the transfer market. (unless you have limitless pots of money for Transfers and Wages)

We can only sign players that

1. We can afford to pay a fee for.
2. We can afford the Wages/Bonus for.
3. Who are willing to play in our league.

Thats getting harder & harder to do given the current financial climate and attractiveness of our League.

We can identify and enquire about potentially available players all year long, but if any of the criteria above isn't satisfied then we are on to plums.

The Board have an obligation under City rules not to place the Shareholders investment in peril.
I dont buy this theory that the board are deliberatley withholding transfer funds for whatever reason, they know that investment has to be made, but it has to be made within our operating budgets.

 

i dont recall calling you a yes man,,i merely pointed out your willingness to take everything the club says as gospel:bbpd:

 

Celtic fans did not invest their hard earned money, in Celtic shares, to see the club become a financial success off the park. We do however want the club to be on a stable footing.

There is avast difference being sound financially and being rich. The only people who benefit from having massive profits (and as far as football teams are concerned this is big profits) are the people who have large shareholdings ie. Dermot Desmond etc.

Gordon Strachan's record, on paper, is no doubt good, but what we watch on the park is * poor. I,ve been going to Parkhead for forty-five years and this team is as bad as it gets.

You can talk all day about 'good financial results' but give me a good team anytime.

 

Yes manager gives his list to the CE, and lets him off to do what he does best, this is what happens at every club.

Maybe we were hoping to come in and get him o a free transfer but Celtic made no attempt to sign a pre-contract because they wouldnt been able to arrange compensation to get him after the pre contract

Bundesliga - Hannover block Huszti Celtic move - Yahoo! Eurosport UK

Celtic would be stuck with him coming in the summer when the market is much much better.

If they wanted a player now, they him from January onwards, precontract was useless to us

Zenit made an offer than Hannover couldnt refuse as it was well over the odds and probably could have beaten us in terms of wages if we decided to go into a bidding war.

You say mistake, I'd say it would have been a waste of Lawwell time because he became an unrealistic target once Zenit put in that offer, they werent going to loose.