Can you blame anyone for leaving?

What the * are you rabbiting about?

FF had numerous chances to leave Celtic before he did. You don't think his agent was on the phone 24/7 after his first Barca performance? If he was a mercenary he would have handed in a transfer request as soon as big names like Benfica were linked with him last season. Instead he gave us more time than most thought we'd get out of him, playing great right 'til the end (saving the peno which ultimately kept us in the CL) and has gone for big money so I don't see how anyone can be mad at him.

But he would have had far more incentive to stay if he'd not seen his mates Ledley and Hooper, plus other good players like Sammy and Wanyama been allowed to leave.

 

Answer the question for * sake.

Exactly what chance was Forster trying to give us?

 

No at all, there is nothing to keep players here, we cant match wages of the clubs down south, cant give them real competitive football week in week out, International managers of the top nations 90% of the time wont pick a player playing in Scotland.

People seem to think the players owe us something and should never leave, just look at the Hooper pages, or his twitter he gets a good bit of abuse. He had no obligation to stay at Celtic, he done well gave us everything he had then moved on and that's just the way its going to be with most good players we have.

 

I already did you blabbering fool.

You got anything remotely interesting or on-topic to say btw or you just gonna spout random *?

 

At least in the EPL he wasn't playing half his games * wee half empty stadiums. Not to mention the big money.

 

I have never blamed any player for leaving. Whether it's for money or to get a regular game or to increase their chance of going to a world cup - it is the nature of modern football.
Say thanks and goodbye - and support those that are still here.

 

Mate me spouting random * would be infinitely more knowledgeable and interesting than anything you've got to say.

Forster was trying to give us a chance to make him stay was he?



It's common knowledge he was desperate to play in the EPL. Being a model pro he gave everything to us while he was here, broke all sorts of records and left giving us a humungous transfer fee.

So far so straightforward.

Not if you are "Awesome" Caz though.

You see, Big Fraser was desperate to play for a successful Celtic and was giving us every chance to do so and retain his services. League Titles, regular Champs League appearances, an England cap, going to the world cup, breaking all sort of Scottish records just wasn't enough for the big man. The REAL problem however was he was very attached to some of our players and when Celtic devised a plot to throw them out of the club (poor Joe!) then that was the last straw for Fraser!!!

He couldn't stand it anymore and just HAD TO GET OUT! Shame on Celtic for doing this to him!!!

Is that about right Caz? Stay awesome ya * roaster :bbpd:

 

What a load of utterly irrelevant *.

You really don't have any salient points to make at all, do you?

My post made complete sense to anyone with either:
a) knowledge of Celtic Football Club
b) general interest in football
or
c) basic understanding of the English language

If you don't fit into any of the above categories then I can only offer you my sympathies.

 

"Awesome" Caz - I've got you on ignore mate, but I'm sure your post above remains * awesome regardless.

It's a shame I'll miss your awesome future post "Virgil Van * Left Because He Thinks Amido Balde Should Get More Than 90 Seconds At The End Of Each Match (And This Is Why I * Despise Celtic)" but hopefully someone could PM me it so I don't miss out.

Your hatred for our club is quite spectacular. You should be awesomley proud

 

Players careers are so short, your no really a first team regular till about 23 unless your a very good player and by the time your 31 your deemed as needing a rest or you'll burn out.

So for the average player, your continuous playing career should last about 8 years. You can assume a players salary will be pretty low at 23. In that situation your looking at a player earning his top salary in his prime, about 26-30, after that due to the players age and the need to bring in a new player to replace him, you can expect a salary drop.

So a player only has about 4 years of earning top end wages.

In the example of Kris Commons. He's been with us through his prime, he'll likely be on no more that £15k a week. If a club comes calling at 30 years old, a club that can pay double your salary, you go.

You could say the average player earns good money from 20-34. 15 years. Likely 3 year contracts.
Age----P/W---P/Y----3yr
20-22 - 10k - 520k - 1.56M
23-25 - 15k - 780k - 2.34M
26-28 - 20k - 1.04M - 3.12M
29-31 - 25k - 1.3M - 3.9M
32-34 - 15k - 780k - 2.34M

£2500 per week all that would pay over a 50 year period. (after tax 45% and agent 10%)

Doesn't include bonuses etc

 

Comedy gold.



Ledley had a contract for weeks if not months.....but it took him 8 hrs from phone call to plane to london to signing for a club in the epl.

Yeah he wanted to stay.

 

He will be now though. :bbpd:

 

AwesomeCaz . Your summary is very similar to what Neil McCann would post . Its difficult to imagine how a Celtic fan could be so anti Celtic .
One thing is certain it will be a long before Virgil leaves for an English club , he could be at Celtic for a long time as he says he wants to play in the Champions League .

 

Ledley issued public statements re: his contract for at least 6 months before, it was the board who decided to run his contract down and sell him at the last minute to Palace, not Joe.

As I said, and as is plainly clear to all with near-normal levels of intelligence, Forster would have been more likely to stay had he been given anything resembling an incentive. As is, we have clearly painted ourselves as a club who wants to sign young players, give them 1 or 2 years to prove themselves, and then sell them on - with absolutely no amibiton whatsoever to build and keep a strong team together and get back to the top table of European football.

Keep believing utter * and living in la-la land though, you numpty.

I'm not anti-Celtic i'm anti-board this last while.

And you're more deluded than 'Wullie' if you think Van Dijk is here for the long term. He'll be off just like Hooper, Forster, Wanyama and the rest. It's a question of 'when' not 'if'.

 

No one is saying that VVD will be here long term, we have all accepted the fact that players only use our club as a stepping stone to the epl.

But for some reason fools like you just blame the club for every single thing that happens...never is it the player wanting to leave its always always the club.

This idea that the club will sell anything that moves and never try to keep any good player worth any money makes about as much sense as half of your childish anti board ramblings based on nothing apart from any reason to have a go at the club you claim to support.


Ok have a go at the board but for * sake not 100% of the time.

 

Allowed to leave these players wanted to leave. As for FF linked with bendica and he's going to hand in a transfer request that's * laughable players only put in transfer requests when there's been bids rejected. Fact of the matter is Southampton were the first team to come in for him and he was out the door.

 

The board is not the club get this in your head ok. If I criticise the board I am not being "anti-Celtic" ffs.

We have to sell at least 1 key player a season - not EVERY * ONE that's the point. Hooper & Wanyama wanted to go - fair enough. But Samaras and Ledley PUBLICALLY came out and said they wanted new contracts months before we let them go - you call that good practice?

As for Fraser the only reason he left this summer was because we gave him no incentive to stay. No-one that good is gonna hang around a terrible league with terrible players around him. He's gone from playing behind Wanyama, Ledley, Hooper and kicking the ball out to Sammy in CL games, to this season having to try and save his team from countless mistakes by useless players like Mulgrew, with Balde and Pukki ahead. No wonder he left and I don't blame him.

If you don't think that massive downsizing played a major part in his decision to leave then you're completely clueless.

 

If commons goes we might see a few youngsters coming through!

 

The thing is mate that the boys that play for Elgin City are only there because they don't have a better choice. If they could get a choice to move to Dunfermline in a better league and on more money they would take it.

Similarly the boys that play for Dunfermline are only there because they don't have a better choice. If they could get a choice to move to Hearts in a better league and on more money they would take it.

This rule applies mostly for every player in every team from the worst one all the way up to the Real Madrids and Bayerns.

Of course you will get a handful who stay longer than they should because they are fans or they fall in love with the club.

You can't fault people for wanting to a) make more money and b) play in a higher rated league.

If everyone of our players absolute busted a gut to achieve either of the above, I would be happy. I was chuffed to see Forster playing in the EPL today. The boy gave us everything and is starting to realise his dream, we got a huge payoff too.

That's fitba

 

At's aw fine n well but who's eh bit a gear on your sig pic?