Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

I can get on board with most of that, mate (apart from the bit in bold ha ha, but that's a matter for HP&R rather than Celtic Chat). But yeah, I think we agree about more than we disagree about.

 

Personally, I don't think she merited it TBH. I want to see journalists questioning things. If she'd turned round and told him to stick his patronising attitude where the sun doesn't shine, I'd have struggled to take his side TBH. However, that doesn't mean I like to see Celtic fans trying to make this a bigger deal than it needs to be, I don't like seeing people get up on their high horses over it and I don't like people saying it's definitely sexist (or that it's definitely not, for that matter).

This kind of thing is a big part of what's wrong with our society now IMHO.

 

I'm finding that the whole wokey let's not say anything to offend anyone thing is backfiring on me.. and now I think bollocks to it all and speak my mind a lot more.

 

Perspective...

 

What do people actually mean when they say the questioning was out of order?

I think very tame overall. It doesn’t even feel like there’s an insane amount of media pressure on Rodgers (compared to say, Lennon or Delia). He’s hinted at a ‘narrative’ but i genuinely don’t see one.

The frustration directed at him has been from the support, and feels fairly valid. We’ve been poor this season. I’m fairly certain he’s even admitted as much.

 

I'm firmly in the who gives a * camp

 

Steve Hughes had the best take on this: if you find it offensive, you can be offended.




For example, the other day, I came across the following racist, sexist and ageist comment in a video about dictionaries.

As a middle-aged white man who has worked very hard and has literally nothing, I found the assumption that lies behind this throwaway comment genuinely offensive and upsetting. But, OK, I can be offended. It doesn't mean the people who made the video are bad people or racists or sexists, or that it should be censored or something (it does mean I'm now more cautious about watching their videos, but that's a natural reaction IMO).

 

Neither do I.

As you said, the fans are * off and rightly so. It’s not being stoked by the media because it doesn’t need to be.

 

The hun loving lickspittles in the Scottish media will look for any kind of negativity regarding our club and the support. They can’t take it that we’ve been putting the scum in their place over the last decade. * them all the mutant * and I hope we do write our own story to get it right up them.

 

Talking of dinosaurs

 

Think he was being condescending rather than sexist because she kept trying to needle him and get a headline or reaction. Would rather he outwitted her some other way and kept a bit more composure but she's a hun boot with an agenda so * her. Surely we've got bigger fish to fry than lengthy debates on this.
Defo feels like people gleefully taking an opportunity to bash BR here, everyone lapped it up when Ange gave the media short shrift.

 

I think the same and before this particular incident I think a lot of the narrative actually came from himself. I read that before January he raised the issue of "needing quality" 16 times in interviews. Then after the window closed and he was asked about failing to bring in quality he seemed to get wound up as if the question was loaded or unfair. He has flip flopped in tone a few times over this season.

On this one, it is much ado about nothing to me. But at the same time I don't think it's a great sign when a manager loses his composure. Ultimately he meant to sound patronizing and it was but if he said "good lad" to a male reporter no one would care.

 

I think the mistake people are making, is expecting a coherent, truthful narrative from Brendan Rodgers.

 

We have more pressing issues to deal with than this bullshit tbh.

 

They're getting paid obscenely more than those at AZ, Bodo, Copenhagen etc yet are performing far less than them.

 

So…..what is it?

Less of the ‘hun narrative’ seeping into my posts, thanks. Poor form from a mod here.

 

I stand by the buck doesn't stop, although the consequences most certainly will fall, with him...

If I (anyone!) go to my boss and say there's too much work, they need to hire more people, give better equipment and remove obstacles and their answer is "No!" are they to blame, or me? Rodgers was on record saying he needed a handful of quality players - ON * RECORD, PUBLICLY! It was as near to a cry for help as a professional manager could make. They gave him a youth player from Germany and a reserve youth from a lesser English team...

And there's always a million armchair scouts with no real experience giving opinions, especially after the first few weeks looking back retrospectively. But most sensible reviews I heard were to the effect he's decent but been derailed by injuries. How else would a player capped at all levels for Germany need a transfer to Scottish football. Brought in to train/develop and he's a solid investment, at reasonable risk. As the BIG SIGNING of an important window is incompetence by the board.

 

That's true of the second half not the first. First was as bad as we've been for me.