Bobo's replacement??

I hate to single out ANY Celtic player for criticism but time and time again i see Caldwell make basic errors in defence, his distribution is woeful in my opinion i have lost count of how many times i have saw him give the ball away or make clumsy tackles. He is an honest trier but that's about it. He brings no stability or confidence to our defence. We are in dire need of a class centre-half to partner McManus. McManus has been given far to much responsibility for a player so young in years and has had to shoulder the burden in defence time and time again. We NEED an experienced older head in there to help big Mick out, particularly for the big European games.

 

ELVIS

 

imho if we play any of our current CB alongside Mcmanus against them we will lose because none of them have the ability to cope with the huns style of play. it has been proved time and time again.

i dont think it's stretching it too much to say if we lose 1 or 2 of the remaining old firm games then we will not win the league.

as for being negative, in general i am not a negative person but i am a realist, its very hard to be positive about a defence that went a year without a clean sheet, a year that included games against pish like; Gretna, Dundee, Inverness and St Mirren.

 

Don't be silly....older head i said, with experience, preferably in Europe. Presley was/is a stop gap. We need someone with genuine European experience who still has a pair of legs.....Not as in Elvis's case someone with a bad back, no stamina, and no European experience other than the odd holiday two-week trip to Benidorm.

 

you forgot no ability

 

I didnt mention that dodgy beard either..........Am no wan fur sticking the boot in.:icon_mrgreen:

 

Not when they've won the league twice on the spin as well as qualifying to the last 16 into the bargain. There is no argument against that, especially for a 'generally not negative' person.

 

go read the first post carefully, my entire point is about our defence's inability to cope with Smith's Rangers team so there's your arguement.

if you wanna carry on going around with your head in the sand fine

 

I'd rather get rid of Balde and keep Caldwell on the bench and bring in someone new who is solid. WGS isn't blind, if we can get 1m for Bobo and get him off the wagebill then we should have enough funds to add a centre half and a new centre forward to the team, that would do me.

 

he's been here for 2 and a half years. we nedded a top quality, dominating centre half when he arrived. we still don't have one and honestly cant see why he'l go get one now. tbh i dont know if i would actually trust him to buy another CB look at his track record; Virgo, Du Wei, Caldwell, Pressley.

 

easy, cost effective way to replace Balde.


See, we get a big boulder about 6.5 feet tall and about 3.5 feet across. We take the boulder and put it at the edge of the box. Presto! It will serve the same purpose as Bobo and be an unshakeable foundation for our defense. For corner kicks, mick and Boruc can roll it in a few yards.

Even better, there is no way the boulder can give away easy errors or get nutmegged by even the trickiest of opponents. Its clearances will need some work though.


edit: dunno if this has been posted yet but

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=496909&cc=5901

 

you have to make the first team to be in a position to cost us anything.
I actually was not considering anything about the UEFA cup loss.

He is expensive and he is no longer good enough to make the regular 'tic first team which is good enough for me to want him shipped out. In one of his clean sheets (against the mighty sides of Dundee Utd. and Gretna if I remember right) he had an uncalled handball in the box. If not for a referee error people would have remembered Bobo's two starts this season a bit differently.

He is better than Presseley, ya. But at least elvis can serve a mentoring role to the up coming guys like conroy and o'dea on a lower salary, but Bobo gets splinters in his * making 20k+ a week. At one point he may have been the Celtic rock in the back line, but that day is done.

 

Evening people, thought i'd jump on this thread with my own thoughts, thats what we're here for eh?

Personally, I really like Bobo and Mick at the back. I think McManus' football brain and ability to read a game offsets Bobos "gung-ho" style of defending very well. I would rather see Strachan keep a hold of Bobo until the end of the year, and then maybe let him go in the summer. I understand peoples points about getting him off the wage bill, and that we could get funds for a decent CB with the income, but for £1 Million, who are you going to get? If Bobo is rated at £1 Million, then we are surely only going to get someone of similar quality.

I think its neither here nor there anyway, as Caldwell will most likely be moved back into CB and Bobo either sold or back in the reserves. I am not Caldwells biggest fan, never have been, but if he does play then he will get my support. I was actually surprised at his form at the start of the saeson, as someone says "no real howlers"

Anyone think that Bobo was only getting his few games to prove to buying teams that he has match fitness?? I am thinking also that Deek has been getting a run, could that mean his departure as well, on the same thinking??

 

Watch Caldwells defending in both these tell me its upto the standard

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He is too blame for every goal in this game.

Watch hime in any game.Bad positioning,gets caught under the ball,poor in a tackle,no physical presence.What the fvck has he got?

People say Bobo makes mistakes.Atleast he is there to head the ball away,put in a challenge,Caldwell isn't even near the players half the time.way way way too many mistakes

 

The 2 of them are as bad as each other, both have cost us in the past.

Bobo has cost us loads in big games just like caldwell has.

Bobo better in the air, caldwell better on the deck.

for me one of the reasons we got to seville was Johan Mjallby that guy was a rock and our best defender in my opinion.

Bobo has had good games in europe but bad as well.

Am glad he is away, cause he is never worth £28,000 but who's fault is that?? not bobo's.

 

Fair points.

 

I agree with most of this apart from you fail to say Caldwell has cost us crucial points at SPL level I am sure you have seen him make far to many costly mistakes in the league and in domestic cup comps.

Balde has cost us some big games.But I am hard pressed to remember any real howlers that he may have made in the SPL or domestic cup comps.That for me is the diference between BOBO and Caldwell.

 

The fact that he is not in the first team does not mean he is not good enough to be selected - it means that WGS doesn't pick him and prefers his own signings (and his CB signings have been dire).

The clean sheets against the mighty Gretna and Dundee Utd were clean sheets we couldn't keep for approx 15 months against other SPL teams so to dismiss them is unfair.

The fact remains that we are far more likely to have clean sheets when he is in the team.