are arsenal bigger than us

Chelsea allways had a name for themselves and were well known ,for violence evrywhere they went ,now since Roman Suga Daddy has came they are regarded a big team ,from fuckall to big in what 5-6 years ,Man City are heading in the same direction ,these guys will find another toy to play with and they will have he haw, apart from a massive debt.

 

My opinion is that the English teams all regard themselves as big because of the coverage they get on TV and the money they get handed. Its set up so the Premiership and all within in it are superior to all other leagues and teams. How many times do you hear from them "the best league in the world"? Its as if they are trying to convince themselves that it is true, or its brainwashing the paying public to believe the hype.

 

I think it's mostly the latter. Personally, I go out of my way to boycott EPL except in European competitions where I still don't seek them out.
Give me Bundesliga any day. (Yea, "lower" quality players but the teams are stable financially and still solid with great support.)

 

Englands top 4 is what makes it the ' best league in the world '. But outside of the top 4 and i think watching championship and league 1 football is more exciting ( thats not a joke )

 

You go in most pubs on a Saturday anywhere in the world at 15.00GMT it would have a game from the premiership. It wouldn't have one from the SPL sorry but St Mirren vs Celtic aint exactly mouth watering is it? Speaking from a neutral point of view

 

The english do it in every sport they really do think that they are the best at anything that they do and they do it with so called superstars ,ie Owen ,great player ,press pressured him and found out he was a gambler ,from high to low just like that,Rooney the best thing ever ,found out he like prostitutes ,high to low again ,they build everyone up to be superstars but then for some reason want to shoot them down ,Beckham was another and there will be a lot more .but its a money thing if you earn the money these guys do the press will go after you .

 

simple answer here!

english football without sky! are * all ! end of.

 

Ask yourselves why people in the other parts of the world have premiership games on? Its certainly not to do with them choosing to watch Arsenal or any other English side. Sky have promoted your/their league all over the world to maximize their profits. Its been forced upon people just like its been forced upon us in Scotland. They wouldn't just let us have an SPL channel would they. They want us to subscribe to all Sky channels even if your only interest is in 2 or 3 games a month. They dominate the market and force people to watch what they want people to watch.

Sky have already * it wth the money, they have messed up the kick-off times * up the usual Saturday afternoon day out at the game, attendances have been hit. * me we had Dundee Utd v Hearts on Monday night, what the * that all about eh? Gate recipts mean alot to these clubs yet Sky have the power to decide when we can go and watch our team.

 

same arguement as yesterday change the record! We do have sky paying us money are we supposed to knock it back? Why are sky paying us this money because they can sell rights to games worldwide for crazy money. Because of the premiership pulling power. We've seen big players over here imo none bigger than Dennis Bergkamp. English teams are constantly involved in the champions league semi's! The EPL is bigger than the SPL! We had a kid called Anthony Stokes now i'm pretty sure you know him? He went to Falkirk on loan and smashed something like 17 goals before christmas. He came back to the premiership got sold to Sunderland, and done nothing not sure where he is now

 

Mate sky move our games * nilly Arsenal seem to play bolton at silly times ie 5.15 making it a * to get home. Most supporters hate sky! I watch my team live I travel everywhere and sky always seems to * us up

 

That * has only happened since the cash injections.

You're going to keep getting the same argument until you can knock it back.
Sky has made EPL into what it is. EPL didn't become a world-brand because it was the best, but because Sky marketed it everywhere and put it on every cable plan in the world. They're due some credit for brilliant marketing.
The ironic thing is that, even with all this cash and bringing players in from everywhere, most of the EPL is still a snorefest. That's just how terrible the English game is at it's basic level.

 

Sky has made the english clubs very rich yes, but if sky went bust now, one of two things would happen, either another company would take up the contract, and probably pay even more money or the likes of the top four would sell their tv rights individually like they do in spain and italy, and make even more money. Either way the epl as a brand now is so big worldwide, that no matter what happens to sky the television money will still far exceed the rest of the world.

 

As I said before to the same guy English teams were dominating europe before heysel and that when Sky wasn't even dreamt about!

 

Good point about the tv rights for the top 4, but with the debts that the other clubs have (not all) there won't be many clubs to play against as a lot will gone bust.

 

Malarkey. It wasn't so long ago that England went 10 years without winning CL.

 

Maybe the guys at the SPL aint marketing it to well! Because I would love to watch the delights of a Falkirk vs Hearts game

 

That would probably work in Europe and maybe USA. I don't think it'd be very successful elsewhere. And the global market is where all the excess cash Sky can bring to the table is coming from.
As for finding somebody who'd pay even more -- feel free to name such a channel. Otherwise this is just hyperbole.

 

you do have a valid point.

 

because we was banned due to Liverpool at Heysel we had some catching up on European teams that is true but i'm pretty sure you look before the years we was banned English teams where dominating it! Even Villa and forest won it

 

Money and football - a powerful but deadly combination.

In football, just as in all free markets, a small number of clubs has come to dominate the English game both in terms of access to resources (money and the best players) and in output (their success on the pitch). How did this happen? And is there any way the other clubs can claw their way back to compete on equal terms?



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