Adam Idah

His hold up play just isn’t good enough for me. Too many times our midfield play into him and make runs around/past him to link up and he just loses it, leaving the midfield scrambling back.

Happened once or twice yesterday, the one I can remember is when mcgregor had to get back and took a knock in the process.

 

Totally agree that this is why Rodgers made the subs.

He was turning his nose up at Aberdeen and believed even with those changes they still had no chance of equalising. Felt it was worth giving players who had made decent impacts lately a runout in a cup final because there was no chance we weren’t seeing the game through.

The kind of thing you do on football manager to give players minutes instead of actually managing the game itself.

Bizarre.

 

You may be right.

I felt as though I could see a change in Brendan's first season under how we played and how isolated the striker was, we were slower and more passive, which lead to our striker being a bit frustrated and getting hardly any touches.

We then wondered whether or not it was a deliberate change in system from Ange to Brendan. I'm not necessarily talking about goals scored by strikers as in Kyogo. More about simply being less involved in the game. Kyogo for me has always missed glorious opportunities, even when he was red hot.

Either way, regardless of if you're right and I'm wrong or vice versa, Brendan still hasn't really figured out who his main striker is going to be.

He will sign somebody this season, as good as Maeda has been, I think it still is an area where Brendan hasn't made his mind up. Left CB as well, we've seen Scales there, Trusty there, Nawrocki etc.

If Maeda gets injured, then we only have Idah up front, Kenny we haven't seen enough of, but I don't see him ever being a first choice Celtic striker.

 

Idah has been available for the club for 35 league games (first 2 games at Norwich and out the squad for 1 game due to injury). Of the 35 games he started 19 (54%) and came off the bench for the other 16 games. Meaning he started more league games than not and appeared in every league game he was available for.
Looking at all appearances, it looks like only one game he was available for, he didn't get game time at all - Raith Rovers cup game early on.

 

He’s defo better player than Idah but Kyogo’s drop off from his first two seasons to by the time he left was two different worlds to me. I don’t know why he escaped criticism, maybe due to his personality and credit in the bank but go watch highlights from then and this season and he was moving away from defenders to a genuinely world class level.

He always missed big chances and didn’t get involved as clearly instructed by coaches other than Rodgers’ initial return but I think we actually sold him at the right time.

Now Idah, if someone can explain to me what he excels in I’d be intrigued to listen. Brings nothing, decent size and pace but gets flung about every week regardless.

If he is our striker going into Europe next season, i am going to be gutted.

 

It's obvious we miss kyogos runs in behind, but it's 2 different players , I like idah but he just has to move more in around the box and not going out wide

 

Fergusson probably has more potential but I’m not convinced he’s going to fulfil it, for club or country, tbh.

 

There was a period in the middle of the season where there was a distinct lack of chances created for whichever striker was playing. Kyogo's conversion rate was down too, which led to less goals overall but the system not creating much for the striker is a valid point.

 

Completely agree. Kyogo missed a bucket load of chances and made a dozen run a games that weren't found. Idah stands behind his defender like a lamp post, occasionally pulls wide to get the ball , lays it back on the halfway line then doesn't get in the box quick enough to give anyone an option.

If he's the main man next season it will be a chore.

 

We don't miss Kyogo specifically, we just miss having a genuine option to call upon off the bench..

We could all see how limited it was on Saturday..

We've got a striker who hasn't got a single assist this season. That isn't sustainable for a side like us, despite his scoring numbers showing up quite well. There needs to be much more in there..

 

Kyogo's probably the most proven and cheapest option we could get. I do not expect us to shell out big money on a striker. Winger and CM is more likely. LB position up in the air as well.

 

He doesn’t create much, so if he’s getting no service he’s kinda pointless. Can score goals if he’s supported well, but we need more in a first choice striker.

 

Agreed. For me Ferguson definitely has more potential but his injury record is not good at all. Unless he can stay fit he will not fulfill that potential and so far unfortunately he hasn't been able to avoid constant injuries. He is young though so maybe that is a factor in his poor injury record but either way he has to find a way to stay fit so he can really get a consistent run of games and hopefully then start to fulfill some of his undoubted promise.

 

Don’t disagree with you bud but tbf to idah Europe is where I thought he actually excelled this year. He was given time on the ball and the ability to run in behind. He never ever gets that in Scotland as its backs to the wall defending. That performance against Villa was exactly what we saw from him when he came in last season.

maybe he’s a pressure/adrenaline player and when his heart rate is up is when he performs best. Some players and athletes in general just don’t hit the heights they do when they’re nervous/adrenaline fueled.

Cup competitions this year with underdogs winning have shown that extra bit of desire can bridge the gap between quality

 

This is what * me off the most. Why do we need to shell out “big money”? What we need to do is scout properly!! There is so so many gems around world football that we could go buy but Rodgers will turn them down. And demand it be an overpaid overhyped and overpriced player from down south. Look at how much Aston Villa wanted for Louie Barry?

we can find players that suit our team and club, we just need to be smart. No reason at all to go out and spend big as it’s never a guarantee

 

Its all relative though. 10m is what we consider big money but we are trying to hold our own with Champions League teams like Villa who spent over 50m on Diaby, 30-40m or so each on Torres, Buendia, Bailey and Watkins. Of course there are gems out there, and we generally do a good job finding them. But there are £10m gems as well - those are the ones we need to put more effort into finding if we even want to stand still never mind progress

 

My worry is that Rodgers will be given the money to spend on who he wants. I don’t trust Rodgers to spend that bigger amount of money at all.

players who haven’t made the grade in the prem but will cost EPL money and wages.

I was all for buying idah but look what it cost us. When in reality there’s probably 40 Adam Idahs around the globe we could have scouted for a fraction of that. We can’t compete with your villas financially but what we can do is scout those buendias, Watkins etc. before they make those villa moves to then become £50m players.

 

I agree 100% regarding Idah and I can see why you say that about Rodgers in general. But I dont believe we will get anyone with a better pedigree than Rodgers if he left. I mean its possible, but feels more unlikely than likely. We hit the jackpot with Ange but on the balance of probability Im happy to stick with Rodgers, albeit I think our scouting and our general corporate structure at the club needs to improve a lot.

Ive said this a couple of times but I still think that the whole feel of the Idah signing felt a bit desperate driven by a lack of other options.