Hip-Hop and Rap is at its best right now.

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  1. JrOhara2

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    I'm honoured to be in the time where they have brought back hip-hop & rap as two of the biggest in the industry.
    With the likes of artists like, 50 Cent, Jay-Z, Diddy, Dr.Dre, Snoop Dogg, Lil Wayne, The Game, Kanye West, etc.
    Plus, all the knew talent like Drake, J.Cole, Wiz Khalifa, Nicki Minaj, Cory Gunz etc.
    With Artists who had a great year such as Rick Ross, Lloyd Banks and many more.
    We have the producers to turn beats into gold, Kanye, Swizz Beatz, The Dream, and now Lex Luger, a 19 year old, who has all ready produced for Kanye, Rick Ross, and Wiz.

    Im not sure if this was a question or a statement, haha.
    But Hip-hop and rap is bigger and bigger.
    do you agree?
     
  2. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    Seriously worst form of music ever to be inflicted on the youth (general public) of today. Nothing musical or decent about it.
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  3. JrOhara2

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    Well we are hardly going to listen to Classical are we :86:
    I'm not sayin this is the only music, i listen to. I have a wide musical preference.
    Such as, the likes of Coldplay, David Gray, The Who (yea i know), Adele, Paulo Nutini.
    But if you want to hear a great beat and great ryhmes, listen to hip-hop.
     
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    Music a personal thing mate and Im sure you enjoy the stuff you listen to. I just dont get it!!

    Each to their own and all that stuff.
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  5. format

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    I think current rap is terrible. Utterly awful.

    See example - Lil Wayne.

    THere IS plenty of good, cerebral and smart hip hop out there but unfortunately there is this pathetic fixation with guns, drugs and money. Add to that a completely misogynistic view of women and there you have mainstream rap./hiphop.

    Jurassic 5, Aesop Rock, Atmosphere, Sage Francis - this is good hiphop.

    The lyrics in this song are brilliant, and you won't hear a single reference to *, guns or how bling their latest SUV is.

    [YOUTUBE]9VL0mB8ILeo[/YOUTUBE]

    This is a perfect example of what made hip hop great in the first place - social commentary - talking about the lifes of ordinary people.

    [YOUTUBE]hoLxuyV9qz8[/YOUTUBE]

    Mainstream rappers like to shout about how 'real' they are and how they are still 'ghetto', which complete * considering you have a * gold plated toilet. I don't begrudge success but I do hate it when they pretend to still be poor for the sake of their lyrics.

    Here's a song by Aesop Rock about war. The lyrics are complex to the extreme, as are most of his songs. There are still sections of Aesop songs that I can't comprehend due to his incredible verbosity - labyrinthine metaphors galore. His lyrics are poems that just happen to have some sweet beats with them.

    [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMlCXs4PGyI[/youtube]


    Final song - a nice wee song about religion

    [YOUTUBE]4fMW19T_9pM&NR=1[/YOUTUBE]
     
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  6. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    I do like some Rap/ Hip Hip, and * love House of Pains Jump Around!!
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    I have to say, you just listed some of the most mainstream artists right now, they're by no means the best in the business, I can't quite be bothered to go to the same effort as format just did and link to stuff but he has the right idea about the attitude towards women and the glorification of drugs/money/violence, there are plenty of intelligent skilled rappers and hip hop artists out there, just got to look a little outwith the mainstream.

    Same goes for most styles of music, you mentioned coldplay and david gray, and if you enjoy them that's fine keep doing so, but honestly coldplay especially they are just the blandest of the bland.

    The best bands/artists aren't always the most well known or successful.
     
  8. HectorTheTaxman Formerly The Spider Gold Member

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    what he said :50:
     
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    I miss nwa, the old ice cube, snoop etc.
     
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    Classic.
     
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    Not going to argue, but im sayin i enjoy alot of artists who just arent known at all, and if i did mention some you'd be like 'Who?'

    Coldplay is my depressed moments, the late hours of the night and *.

    But back to the point i feel like J.Cole and Drake are pushin hip-hop to go further than its boundaries.
     
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    [Drake]
    I'm more than just an option
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    Refuse to be forgotten
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    I took a chance with my heart
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    And I feel it taking over
    
    [Chorus]
    I better find your love and
    I better find your heart
    I better find your love and
    I better find your heart
    I better find your love and
    I better find your heart
    I bet if I give all my love
    Then nothings gonna tear us apart
    I’m more than just a number
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    I doubt you’ll find another
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    So every single summer
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    I be the one that you remember
    
    [Chorus]
    Drake Find Your Love lyrics found on http://www.directlyrics.com/drake-find-your-love-lyrics.html
    
    And I better find your lovin
    I better find your heart
    I better find your love and
    I better find your heart
    I better find your love and
    I better find your heart
    I bet if I give all my love,
    Then nothings gonna tear us apart
    It’s more than just a mission
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    You hear but you don’t listen
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    You better pay attention
    Hey, Hey, Hey
    And get what you been missing
    
    [Chorus]
    Too many times I’ve been wrong
    I guess being right takes too long
    I’m done waiting, theres nothing left to do
    But give all I have to you and
    I better find your love and
    I better find your heart
    I better find your love and
    I bet if I give all my love,
    Then nothings gonna tear us apart
    I bet if I give all my love,
    Then nothings gonna tear us apart
    That's from (as far as I can tell) one of Drake's biggest hits. If that's pushing the boundaries of hip hop then I really, really fear for it.

    Did you listen to any of the videos I posted?
     
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    i love my hip hop and rap, i do agree with format to a certain exten that i dont like to hear all them rappin about ther suv's money and so on as i thik its been done to death my favourite rappers were the game and eminem but latley the two best albums i have heard are Devlins - Bud Sweat and Beers (especially brainwashed runaway and community outcast) Tinie Tempahs Discovery ( especially Invincible written in the stars pass out and miami to ibiza :50:) and Professor Green Alive till am dead, i liked ndubs as well nut ther newest album just seemed rushed and americanised

    [YOUTUBE]XRob2t2PPek[/YOUTUBE]
    [YOUTUBE]1L4iH89tjAM[/YOUTUBE]
     
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    I personally love Hip Hop... each to thier own tho!:party22: lol
     
  15. JrOhara2

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    Thats a mainstream single from him, and not a hit.
    Listen to the mixtape So Far Gone, your welcome buddy :86:
     
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    Amazing
     
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    I get all the modern mainstream hip-hop inflicted on me by my wee bro, and it is garbage. He's only 12, so he'll learn. Apart from flogging the same old guns, money, cars lyrics over & over again nobody seems to bother * about with beats to come up with something fresh.

    Must admit i don't follow rap as closely as i once did, no doubt original stuff is still being made under the radar, but personally think mainstream hip-hop peaked from mid 80's (PE, Ultramagnetics etc) through to the mid 90's (Tribe Called Quest, Wu-Tang).
     
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    Mate you listed a bunch of mainstream bullshit, thats not real hiphop

    nicki minaj, drake, lil wayne, 50 cent , seriously how have they brought it back
    the golden era of rap imo was from the late 80s to mid 90s if we are talking mainstream
    that period had the likes of rakim, kool g rap, wu tang clan, krs one, nas....
    you cant possibly say, lil wayne, the game etc have brought that era back
    the only hip hop you will find like that is underground, canibus, apathy, diabolic, pharaohe monch etc
     
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    50 Cent, Diddy, Nicki Minaj - bringing Hip Hop back, are you serious?

    Diddy hasn't done anything of note since Big was writing his rhymes, Rick Ross has one of the most manufactured careers in Hip Hop history, 50 Cent has all but retired after making a mint from Vitamin Water (and he hadn't done anything decent for about 8 years anyway), Dr Dre doesn't even write his own songs.

    New York City, 1993 - 1996, that was Hip Hop at it's best. I genuinely read that first post thinking it was a troll. I actually like a few of the artists around now but comparing them with the likes of Nas, Big L or Biggie is ridiculous. Almost everything you have mentioned is throwaway Pop music.
     
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    I think this is a new era for hip-hop, it went dead for a few years then artist starting appearing from no-where all at the same time: Drake, J. Cole, Tempah, Wiz Khalifa, B.o.B. etc.

    I also think older artists are getting back to their best as well: Jay-Z, Eminem, Snoop, Kanye, Dr. Dre, etc.

    It's definitely an exciting and optimistic future for hip-hop!