Racist anti-muslim protesters mistake black person for muslim in new york

[YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwaNRWMN-F4[/YOUTUBE]

pause at 1:17, shows the intelligence of these idiots

 

* idiots

 

"mosque supports HAMAS"

my *

 

I'm American, and i'm ashamed of how many stupid and ignorant people live here.
Its truly quite shocking. Of course there are many intelligent and brilliant people but these people just make the most noise.

 

In another time - a lynching, perhaps. So much for the wisdom of the mob. So much for the vaunted 'Bill of Rights'. Think George Dubya rolled a fat doobie with that piece of parchment whilst he and his cronies were conjouring up the 'Patriot Act'.

 

As much as these people wanna whine and moan, the developers are well within their rights to put a mosque there. They own the property, they have all the legal permits to build it.

 

Oh, and they claim that we here in the South are racist?

 

Beethoven actually is the name of a dog in a well-known American children's movie so that's quite misleading.

The video's sickening. The developed Western World in general (US, Western Europe) is collapsing in on itself whether it's from social problems or being crushed by the weight of its economic bubbles. * like this happens as a result of inflamed social tensions. And agree Nowhereman, as an "expat" Southerner living in California the hypocrisy of these Northeastern people is ridiculous.

 

You are basing your view of the north on no more than 100 misguided fools, and lets not forget that while their are racists in the north as ther are everwhere, the South has a much larger problem. Although I will say that Europe has a much greater problem wth racism than anywhere in North America.

 

This is the thing though. I have no problem with people who have spent time in the South and don't like it. But most Northerners blanket statement a quarter of the geographic area of the US based on exactly what you just criticized Nowhere for doing. There are areas of the South where it is worse than the rest of the country: Memphis, Alabama, Mississippi, etc. There are areas of the South where it is not worse than the rest of the country: Jacksonville, Charleston.

 

The Controversy has nothing to do with their right to build, the problem is that they are building an Islamic version of the YMCA in a spot that was part of the 9/11 attacks. I fully support the idea of them building a cultural center but it should not be so close to Ground Zero. Even Muslim-Americans think that the mosque should be moved and many have said that it is a insult to buid it so close to the WTC.

 

"Many muslims?" Like who? And why shouldn't it be so close to Ground Zero?

 

One was Muslim neoconservative Suleiman Schwartz, Executive Director of a Washington, DC non-profit organization, the Center for Islamic Pluralism. He said that building the mosque barely two blocks from Ground Zero is inconsistent with the Sufi philosophy of simplicity of faith and sensitivity towards others[37], disregards the security of American Muslims and the radical associations maintained by Imam Rauf.[140]
Another founding member of the Center for Islamic Pluralism, Zuhdi Jasser, who is also the founder of the American Islamic Forum for Democracy, a group of Muslim professionals in the Phoenix Valley of Arizona, strongly opposed the mosque, saying:

For us, a mosque was always a place to pray...—not a way to make an ostentatious architectural statement. Ground Zero shouldn't be about promoting Islam. It's the place where war was declared on us as Americans."[37] Neda Bolourchi, a Muslim whose mother died in 9/11, said: "I fear it would become a symbol of victory for militant Muslims around the world."[141]
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Authors Raheel Raza and Tarek Fatah, board members of the Muslim Canadian Congress, said:

We Muslims know the ... mosque is meant to be a deliberate provocation, to thumb our noses at the infidel. The proposal has been made in bad faith, ... as "Fitna," meaning "mischief-making" that is clearly forbidden in the Koran.... As Muslims we are dismayed that our co-religionists have such little consideration for their fellow citizens, and wish to rub salt in their wounds and pretend they are applying a balm to sooth the pain.[142]
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Hossein Kamaly, Term Assistant Professor of Asian and Middle Eastern Cultures at Barnard College, Columbia University, observed:

After all, it was 19 Egyptian and Saudi Arabian thugs calling themselves Muslims who perpetrated this heinous crime on September 11th. They want to send a message of friendship, but building a mosque where there wasn't one before, is not the most nuanced way of doing that.[143]
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Akbar Ahmed, Ibn Khaldun Chair of Islamic Studies at American University, while noting that blaming all Muslims for 9/11 was "ridiculous", said:

I don't think the Muslim leadership has fully appreciated the impact of 9/11 on America. They assume Americans have forgotten 9/11 and even, in a profound way, forgiven 9/11, and that has not happened. The wounds remain largely open [...] and when wounds are raw, an episode like constructing a house of worship—even one protected by the Constitution, protected by law—becomes like salt in the wounds.[144]
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He goes on to say that, in his opinion, if the center is constructed as well as a mosque it should contain a memorial and an ecumenical house of worship.[145]
Abd Al-Rahman Al-Rashed, general manager of Al-Arabiya television, also criticized the project in a column titled “A House of Worship or a Symbol of Destruction?” in the Arab daily A-Sharq Al-Awsat, saying:

Muslims do not aspire for a mosque next to the September 11 cemetery...the mosque is not an issue for Muslims, and they have not heard of it until the shouting became loud between the supporters and the objectors, which is mostly an argument between non-Muslim US citizens! [146][147]
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Gamal Abd Al-Gawad, director of Al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo, opposes Park51, saying:

Many Muslims fear that the mosque will become a shrine for Islamists, which would remind Americans of what Muslims did on 9/11...Some people express concern that if the mosque will be built, it will harm Muslims and Islam in America. It’s not good for Muslims and Islam to be in the heart of such a controversy [148][147]
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Rima Fakih, the first Muslim-American crowned Miss USA as Miss USA 2010, opposed the mosque on the grounds of it being insensitive to families of 9/11 victims, telling Inside Edition:

I totally agree with President Obama with the statement on the constitutional rights of freedom of religion. [But] it shouldn't be so close to the World Trade Center. We should be more concerned with the tragedy than religion.



a few, and while legally their is nothing wrong with them building there they should know better than to build so close to ground zero. The vast Majorty of America and New York Opposes it. The group that wants to build the mosque was offered another location for free but they refused saying that the loction was important. I am very supportive of the Imam building a cultural center to promote interfaith understanding, but all he is doing is offending more than half the country. In the 1980's a group of Nuns wanted to build a Christian youth Center near Aushwitz, when it became clear that they were offending a large amount of people they moved a few miles away and everyone was happy.
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The thing that I don't understand is it isn't even at ground zero, it's a fair distance away. Judging by the coverage you'd think they were building a mosque on top of the rubble of the towers.

 

Their was a law professor made a good point when he said "Expressions of religious freedom are always subject to valid time, place and manner regulations. And the right to build a religious building is always judged against the rights and needs of others. Just as freedom of speech does not allow you to shout 'Fire' in a crowded theater, so freedom of religion does not allow you to build a church or mosque in a place that's inappropriate.

 

still funny mate
weve th sma * in saksetechean in moosjaw, bunch of tory-voting gun-toting arseholes, but we don have the sme problem with education as in th stAtes but the anti islam, hillbilly type bs is still quite a pobem

 

I know there are a few, there are even more politcians, Muslims, and family members of 9/11 victims who support it.

Here's a woman who lost family members:

Mark Cohen, a professor of Jewish civilization at Princeton, supports it.

Another 9/11 family member who brings up a notion I've thought about:

Ted Olson, Solicitor General under Bush and husband of a 9/11 victim, further agrees.

So does conservative firebrand Ron Paul...

OH! And the Mayor of NYC as well!

Now, we can both move away from the tactic of hiding behind other peoples' opinions "well some Muslims believe it's offensive" "well some conservatives don't", because we both know that cuts both ways and the inverse of those comments is true as well, so if you want to cut down to the merit of the argument I'm ready. What do you find morally objectionable to building a Mosque where they are building it?

 

Same problem here, let's move away from others' opinions. By the way, it was John Witte from Emory. I philosophically disagree with his likening building a Mosque two blocks away from NYC (something which doesn't enflame the sentiments of rationally-thinking people) and yelling fire in a theater (something which enflames the sentiments of rationally thinking people, possibly causing a stampede and injury). However, I'm not interested in debating his views, but yours.

 

Two Blocks - you can't see it from Ground Zero. This begs the question of "how close is too close?" Close enough to make Fox News uncomfortable?