Kris Commons

I would love to see our youth players getting a chance especially Aitcheson and Miller but the Cup final is so close to the end of the season is it too risky to mess about with the first team when we want to be totally prepared for the Treble if we reach it?

If unfortunately we don't reach the final * forbid then I'd just give as many youth players as much chance as possible and a taste of first team football against top competition in Scotland. The experience would be invaluable and we'd be able to have a good look at their potential.

I get the feeling Commons is so far from Brendan's philosophy that he wouldn't consider playing him under any circumstances. We'd have seen him already.

I would like to see him get a send off though because of his contribution to Celtic's success over recent years.

 

I know the treble is important mate but, for me, being ready for the qualifiers is much more important.

I don't see why we can't be ready for both but if I was pushed to choose, then being in peak condition for the CL quals is way more important.

I would certainly be giving players some time off, annual leave if you like. Paddy and KT can get away at the same time.

 

True @Sean Daleer whatever we think it's a fact that the qualifiers are our most important part of the season. Playing against the best is what we want as well as the money but those are the nights we all remember, much better than any Glasgow Derby atmosphere and it's a complete downer if we don't make it. So you're right that is what we should be focusing on and finding out our best squad for it.

I would just love to know how many players are on Brendan's list now we have a new scout.

Giving the youth a chance at the end of the season would give them a chance to stake their claim. He's already shown he's willing to give players an opportunity to prove themselves.

* *, this unbeaten/ Treble run is causing a lot of nerves and then straight away it's the qualifiers we'll be * it. It's non stop!!! Plus next season Rangers will be challenging again and probably qualifying for the CL by winning the Europa League. And as the pundits have said after the draw they've totally sussed us out now, best squad in Scotland it was only a matter of time, I can't take it anymore

 

Really? You don't think you'll look back at the first half of 10 in a row, thinking Commons * smashed that, 32 goals from midfield. That's no too bad.

20 years from now, he'll be remembered as a major component on the way to the 10.

 

Love Commons. He loves the club and he's had his fair share of success here, contributing to champions league success and domestic success.

 

On a slight side issue, does anyone feel that this unbeaten run could be dragging us down a bit? By this I mean that the title is in the bag and Brendan could already be giving some of the younger guys and indeed Eboue and Commons game time or a run in the team. But is it no defeat at all costs? Also felt against the manky mob that we seemed happy to see the game out instead of going for the jugular and it came back to bite us on the *. (Albeit, we didn't lose).

 

The fact we're unbeaten is no doubt on Brendans mind, but I think it's just a case of us trying to win every game, and to win every game Brendan will put out what he thinks is our strongest team available.

There has been games through the season where he's switched it up a bit, just to bring a bit of freshness to the side.

I've no doubt we'll see a lot more of Eboue and some of the younger players before the end of the season.

Don't think we'll see Commons though

 

Totally understand where you come from with the 32 goals especially from midfield but totally disagree that come 20 full years time he'll be remembered as a major component - I'd argue that come 20 years down the line the vast majority will say "Kris who?".......mind you are saying TWENTY YEARS, already some arguing his cause only a year or 2 from his exploits on whether they really liked him or not and he is still in our current squad so TWENTY YEARS time many things will have replaced Kris and him being remembered as amajor compenent is very debatable.

BTW I like the guy, for what he has done and as a person to interact with but 20 years is very stretching to say the least.

 

If you think the fans will any major player on the push to 10 in a row, if we do clinch it, you're mental mate.

Him being a major component is debatable? How so? Year on year he was around the top of the goal scoring charts for us and the assists chart. Do goals and setting up goals not constitute a major part of winning games for you, which is the key to getting 3 points, which is the key to winning leagues? Debatable ma hoop

People still talk about Provan and McLeod, nigh on 20 years from the likes of Andy Thom, Pierre and Cadette who achieved nowhere bear what Commons has they're still talked about.

Think you're a bit mental if you think it'll be 'Kris who?'

 

Certainly not "mental", well at least nothing that appears on my annual extensive health checks or my interaction with close colleagues....merely highlighting my opinion in a forum which varied opinions should be part of the interaction otherwise what a dull boring forum it would be - I'd argue strongly the fact a few are willing to go against the grain and have different opinions makes them less mental as shows they have a willingness to think for themselves and not follow the flock.

Without being rude I'm not really sure what your trying to say in your 1st sentence as it doesn't seem to run correctly, but I may be mis-reading as jumping about doing a few things this morning.

Not sure where the major component part comes from - no one, certainly not I have argued he wasn't important......the point is 20 years time remembered so well.

I think anyone who has any form of understanding of the game knows goals and setting them up helps win games.......no one, even the posters before me have even suggested goals aren't important so we'll move on from that point as no mileage in that as no one has said otherwise.

What 1 or 2 others have suggested of which I agree is the fact that will he be remembered so strongly in 20 years (not now, 2-3 years after his exploits even though still also a registered player) but 20 years time by all.......of which again I will say no I don't really think Kris will be remembered so strongly by all 20 years down the line.

The kids of around 10-13 let's say will be big time supporters of us in 20 years, even now I see some visits and the kids will gather round thier fav players and those they want thier pics taken with and I'm pretty shocked to see that on many occasions even now Kris could easily walk right by them without a stampede towards him with many taking double look to ensure he is a player - surprising yes, shocked a little, mental certainly not......as that is life.

It be interesting also come 20 years in the local pub if asked "who scored 30 goals for Celtic in season 2013/14 (I may be out by a season)...........come 20 years time almost all will be racking thier brain on who the striker was and not many will get Kris Commons slipping off thier tongue.

Be good to have you at my local that day, as that's one you can get and I'll hopefully get some of the others.

 

Nobody will ever say "Kris who?" mate, come on.

Maybe the next generation of fans are too busy with their Messi's and Chelsea and all that *. But if they are good Celtic fans they will know their history

Just looking at the cult hero threads on here etc tells me that Commons will not be forgotten in 20 years time. I, and many others on here, could still rattle off rough starting XI's for Celtic from 30 years ago.

 

Social media will mean he's remembered more than your Murdo MacLeod's in my opinion..

You can pretty much see every goal that Commons has ever scored in his career..

It's much easier now for that very reason..

 

From a guy who was against the signing, he's been fantastic, was looking up stats and they were amazing, easily one if not our best player for stats in recent times and I'm going back Naka etc territory.

For me he should be given game time, but ain't gonna happen.

 

Commons is the past, if anything we should be looking to see what we have in the youth ranks. See if they can deal with the step up and the pressures that come with it.

 

Think you don't know the fanbase then. Even the likes of Tosh McKinlay, Mark Burchill, Simon Donnelly and co don't get a response of 'who?'

Never mind one of the most important members of a team on the way to the 1st 4 titles on our way to 10 in a row.

p.s. The major component part being debatable comes from you saying 'a major component is debatable'

 

Know the fanbase well thanks, having travelled to matches both home and away for many years when not involved in another match...even now that I'm involved in the game my family and cousins still all travel to matches (most in supporters buses).

I've been told umpteen times that Kris really split each of thier buses (going back over a season ago), with some loving him and some not keen on him at all infact happy if he moved on and that was before this season.

Listen, I like the guy and having spent time with him both socially and as a player nothing has put me off him - why did some not take to a guy just a season after his high goal scoring exploits as a midfielder I haven't a clue.......is it they didn't like his work rate, did they feel he wasn't fit enough as a pro, did they read into the rumours of his run ins with NL and then the heightened ones with RD who knows but folk in the support went off the guy which is really surprising and they have little time for him now let alone 20 years later.

Is this right of them to easily move on and forget someone who ultimately will be our highest scoring midfielder they will have probably seen.........I have my own opinions on that, and as I do if he should still be kicking a ball for us even now - regardless it won't see those who were keen to move on and try to forget about him already become any more passionate on the player in 20 years - again in my opinion.

 

It's football mate. Time moves on and seeing as we've been so successful, then of course he won't be missed..

Far better player's have left and not been missed too much, but that isn't to say they aren't respected or remembered for there efforts..

 

Greedy, lazy, loves the sound of his own voice.

3 reasons I never took to him the same way many others did. That is why I won't look back on him in 20 years with a great fondness for him.

I appreciate what he did for the club, particularly that season where his goal record was crazy, and he seems like a nice guy away from football - his wife certainly is. But there's a few reasons why he sort of splits the fan base, like you said.

 

DH - thanks for being honest with the reasons on why you never took to him like others did as I've asked a few thier reasons and they just give me the line "just don't like the guy" which doesnt really let me understand why. When you say greedy do you mean in the sense of always wanting to take shots/be involved in last quarter of pitch scenario or do you mean in the financial sense.

No hidden agenda either way my friend just keen to understand view as appreciate your honesty.

Sorry just quoted one part of your statement my friend as couldn't agree more, it's amazing that some players are never missed until things go wrong then in a shot they are a missed almost to hero level. If Rogic hadn't shined so much this year and goals had dried up a far greater cry would have gone out to get Kris game time but the requirement was limited to an extent with any real need minimal.

 

Greedy on the pitch. Shoots when a simple pass is on, shoots from crazy angles etc. Yes I know, you don't shoot you don't score, and his scoring record is very good. But he was very frustrating at times.

I'd be interested to see his average shots per game over his time here.