Its time to force change: Suggestion Thread

I don't think they get stick to anywhere near the level they should?

What journalists or ex Celts have been critical of the board in the past? Sutton? Davie Provan? Charlie Nicholas? We have cheerleaders like Lennon and Petrov rolled out there, every criticism has to be caveated. Every time the criticism is raised Celtic fans are called entitled and questioned how dare they criticise the board in such a successful era. The Celtic minded board apologists that work in mainstream media are the issue.

Quite frankly I have been sick of the site of souptaker Neil Lennon for a long time, the arrogance and contempt he has shown fans who supported him through thick and thin for so long should never be forgotten.

What did they actually due during Covid, put Lawwell on the sidelines for 12 months before brining him back to the boardroom again? Brought in an outsider for 3 months and then got rid of him for another company man. This time they all have to go.

 

The perfect chance for a boycott was the Newcastle friendly and it was a near sell out

 

They get fairly hammered in the media but its in fits and starts. Theres too much football news out there for celtic board to be front and centre all the time. But after an almaty or a scandelous transfer window most mainstream outlets will pillior them. But then the wagon moves on.

In scotland its easy to pick up wins to keep discontent from spilling over. I dont think we will truly get sustained pressure as long as we win the league. That keeps the wolf from the door. I dont think it satisfies the fan base but its just about enough to stop full protesting.

As i said the only time ive ever seen them rattled was during covid when the league was lost and the support went after them.

 

There's literally a thread thats seen quite a bit of action today..

We can't even unite in here, what chance is there of uniting the whole fanbase

 

Calling an EGM at a PLC like Celtic

1. Shareholding Threshold
   
   • Shareholders holding at least 5% of the voting rights can require the board to call an EGM.
     
     
   • This can be a single shareholder or a group acting together.
     
2. Written Request
   
   • The request must be in writing and state the general nature of the business (e.g. “review of football strategy,” “confidence in board,” “appointment of independent directors”).
     
     
   • It must be properly signed and submitted to the company’s registered office.
     
3. Board’s Obligation
   
   • Once the request is valid, the board is legally required to call the meeting within 21 days.
     
     
   • The meeting must then be held within 28 days of the notice being issued.
     
4. If the Board Refuses
   
   • If they fail to act, shareholders themselves can convene the EGM at the company’s expense
     

 

Campaign to have the payment of Celtic directors cut in half. If they love the old firm so much, then the theoretic old firm ( the huns died) can pay them. So half from us and half from newco.

Boycott and picket all Celtic stores. Buy * all and "encourage" everyone else to buy * all

 

This.
Even if it fails, the publicity opportunity would be massive.

 

Just saw this post on FB. It's a start

Celtic fans on the HCTS – you can opt out of the Europa League package if you wish.
Email tickets@celticfc.co.uk with:
“Please remove me from the Home Ticket Scheme with immediate effect.
Client Ref:
Name on season book:
It’s up to each individual to decide

 

Let them know, that we know what they're up to. Always refer to the turds, as "old firm" loving *

 

This shows that Trainer, Keane etc are every bit as culpable as Desmond for the current mess!

 

The only thing I’m purchasing is my season ticket only because you may never get that back.

Other than that they’re getting * nothing from me till they’re gone

 

I don't think they do. I think any criticism I've read other than fan blogs gas been meek and mild from the MSM and nearly always caveated.

The media are very quick to call about the entitlement and use the PLC talking points to add the "balance" to it.

 

Major Shareholders of Celtic plc
According to ownership data from Simply Wall St:

• Dermot Desmond – ~34.5%, making him the largest individual shareholder. Simply Wall St+1
  
  
• Lindsell Train Limited – ~18.3%, one of the significant institutional investors. Simply Wall St+1
  
  
• Christopher Trainer – ~11% stake. Simply Wall St+1
  
  
• John (James Mark) Keane – ~6.22% ownership. Simply Wall St+1
  
  
• Thomas Allison – ~3.54% shareholding. Simply Wall St+1
  
  
• Dolmen Fund Management – ~2.5%. Simply Wall St+1
  

The top 25 shareholders collectively control over 81–82% of the company. Simply Wall St+1

Other shareholders with smaller holdings include:

• Lombard Odier Asset Management – ~1.7%
  
  
• HSBC Global Asset Management UK – ~0.5–0.7% (figures vary slightly across sources)
  
  
• The Celtic Trust (supporter-owned group) – ~0.18%
  
  
• Barclays, Schroder, Charles Schwab, Evelyn Partners, Platform Capital, and others each hold under 1% individually. Simply Wall St+1MarketScreener
  

Other Reporting Highlights
MarketScreener provides slightly different phrasing but aligns closely:

• Christopher Trainer – ~10.99%
  
  
• James Mark Keane – ~6.23%
  
  
• Lindsell Train Ltd. – ~5.69%
  
  
• Thomas Eardley Allison – ~3.54%
  
  
• Banque Lombard Odier – ~1.17%
  
  
• Other institutional investors hold smaller percentages. MarketScreener+1
  

Role of Supporter Shareholding

• The Celtic Trust, a well-organised supporters' group, holds around 0.03% of Celtic plc (approximately 30,000 shares) and serves as a collective voice for fan-shareholders. Wikipediaceltictrust.net
  
  
• They also offer services to fans—such as helping register with the share registrar (Computershare), attending AGMs, and pooling voting rights—aimed at increasing fan influence. shareholders.celtictrust.netceltictrust.net
  

Summary
Shareholder Approx. Ownership
Dermot Desmond ~34.5%
Lindsell Train Limited ~18.3%
Christopher Trainer ~11%
John (James Mark) Keane ~6.2%
Thomas Allison ~3.5%
Dolmen Fund Management ~2.5%
Other institutional investors <2% each
The Celtic Trust (supporters) ~0.18% or ~0.03%
If you’re considering organising pressure or campaign strategies, it’s clear that Dermot Desmond and a handful of institutional shareholders jointly control the majority of votes—making their cooperation crucial for any meaningful change. That said, the Celtic Trust’s work in aggregating fan shares (and providing proxy voting) gives smaller shareholders a stronger collective voice, especially at AGMs or in pushing for an EGM.

Would you like help identifying how to reach out to these shareholders or craft messaging that might resonate with them—or perhaps explore emerging investor relations or reporting contacts?

 

I’d generally say that hitting them in their wallet seems like the best, but there’s clearly some decent cushioning there and it would arguably be a more protracted process. Mass cancellation of direct debits, not buying Europa packages etc. would be a start, and might spook them in the short term, but we need serious fundamental changes - we simply can’t take them at their word that they’re sorry or that they’ll change (if we even get that).

It’s maybe less likely, and it would heavily depend on how much we’re ‘valued’ (i.e. how much we bring in), but if there was a genuine organised fan campaign to not buy merchandise while the current board/‘ownership’ is in place, there’s a chance that merchandise partners/sponsors start getting a bit * and have a quiet word.


Beyond that, there needs to be constant, visible signs of protest.

It’s * for the players, and those that aren’t culpable, but we can’t just have a banner with ‘Sack the board!’ one week and the next home game it’s back to banners bigging up the club and the classic songbook (for those that do partake).

At every home game, be it in the League, the Cup(s) and particularly the Europa League (given that it’s theoretically going to be our biggest platform) there needs to be banners and chants actively calling out and shaming the guilty parties. There needs to be protests before and after games. It needs to become a ‘distraction’, an ongoing and unavoidable conversation when covering our games.

 

No, the onus is on the person advocating intimidation and fear (including towards children) to explain why they think that is a reasonable course of action.

Particularly in response to something as trivial as football.

 

If the Huns can form a group called "The Rangers Football Club" surely we can form a group trust called "The Celtic" and sells merch etc that's similar but not © and look at having it be non-profit, and bank the money very much openly. If the board visibly see revenue they could access sitting somewhere they can't get it they'll sit down with representatives fast enough... That way we can still show support, but not fund these snake oil salesmen passing themselves off as a board

 

This is a useful contribution, thank you.

I think its certainly worth understanding the aspirations of the major shareholders you identify, but also don’t lose sight of the fact that a well-run Trust with popular leadership and clear vision it can articulate is hugely valuable in and of itself.

This is because if at some point in future an opportunity exists to gain a much more substantial shareholding, then a vehicle already exists and doesn’t have to be set up from scratch. That’s a really important lesson from a lot of clubs that have moved into community/supporter ownership in Scotland over the past few years.

So it’s worth getting involved with the Trust now, even if it feels like a monumental task to increase its shareholding as things stand today.

 

Tom English on bbc as an example ridiculed the clubs strategy after almaty and the last game rangers. He wont be writing week in week out though.

There was publicity heading into that game how both sets of support were raging at their boards.

 

You call them happy clappers and apathetic fans, they are just fans of the team and the club, you can’t exactly blame them as part of the problem, you are suggesting turning your back on the team and the club as the true way of being a real fan?? I’ll take your season ticket if you don’t support Celtic.


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Peter Lawwell’s house/car was already fire bombed the last time with his wife and kids inside, and you hit out with this bile? You’re an absolute wrongun mate. Go support rangers.


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