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Is Anyone Else Getting Fed Up With The Conspiracy Nonsense?

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Dáibhí, Apr 15, 2012.

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  1. Dáibhí

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    I'm not saying that he didn't, as he most likely did. All managers do.

    What I'm saying is that he didn't rush onto the park to chase the official down, making himself look ridiculous and more than likely losing any respect that the match official had for him.

    Surely Lennon must realise that when he does that any valid point he had about the game is immediately lost in the so-called "controversy" of his behaviour.

    He should attempt to have a word in private after the game, and if that doesn't work or if the official refuses to see him then he should let that be known. A much more effective way of highlighting the problem.

    As it stands he's acting like the little boy who cried wolf. No one is listening to him any more because of his past actions. He's fast becoming a laughing stock.

    As for the conspiracy stuff, as I said in the original post, it's been taken too far. I'm not saying there isn't a bias against Celtic in certain quarters of the establishment, but we now use it as an excuse virtually every time we lose a game.

    Maybe sometimes it's simply down to the fact that we have a manager who isn't the most tactically astute out there? He was the cheapest and easiest option after we sacked Mowbray, and in traditional fashion our board went for that option rather than scout around and pay up for an experienced, quality manager.

    Had they done that we may have been sitting with more trophies in the cabinet.
     
  2. CH4 Gold Member Gold Member

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    I see your point,but i am fed up as to which celtic side turns up on the day.

    when we are good, were good ,but when we are poor were *.
     
  3. bkk bhoy

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    CONSISTENCY is the KEY

    The officials are not very good (but not as bad as many make out) on the actual decisions but every fan and manager agrees they are NOT consistent.

    ALSO APPLIES TO CELTIC

    we are not as good as some believe but we are not a bad team

    we can play very well (superb at times) but have yet to see 90 mins let alone a good run. we are not consistent...

    most teams suffer from this but lets see the team for what it is

    youngsters with huge potential.... when it clicks its great to watch ( even for the neutrals).. i think we would have won in extra time as we had the momentum but hey, an edinburgh derby at the end of season... share the happiness around.. good luck to the Hibees

    Glasgow does not have a monopoly on winning and Celtic were poor (again) yesterday. It's only a game and we need other teams and their supporters to have success at times to bring in supporters for them...

    Final should be in edinburgh... let them have a party and we put this behind us

    (as long as we learn from it )

    consistent refereeing equally applied will suffice for me ... they wont get every decision correct but they COULD apply the rules consistently.

    i think that is all we can expect .... as PAYING CUSTOMERS... we have the rights of consumers and the refs should be forced to give after match interviews as well as managers... make them speak on camera... stop the officials hiding when answers are what is needed
     
  4. Liam Scales

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    I'm not a customer of Celtic, I'm a * diehard Timmy * Bastarding Fan.

    * being just a customer.
     
  5. Shepard

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    Officials here aren't very good, I agree, but look to the Prem League. I'd say their refs are equally as bad, or even worse. Look at the Man Utd game yesterday when they were given a pen for Young's blatant diving for example, or Man City when Tevez was accused of diving when he was actually fouled. Or even Chelsea's 2 offside goals the week before. I don't think I've watched an episode of MOTD when the commentator hasn't said "the ref's got that wrong". And don't get me started on foreign ones.

    The knee-* reactions we have for officials here is getting old in my eyes. Yes, no doubt there will be a few refs out their who are probably indeed huns, but with the contempt we give every ref in this country they're probs beginning to feel scared to give decisions against us. And Lennons approaches after games will be added pressure to them.

    Many times this season we've had decisions go in our favour (and not). And many times this season the Huns have had decisions go against them (and not). I think that's just football though, and every club will have decisions that goes against them.

    I still think in regard to the game yesterday, the pen was harsh to give, and equally disgusted me when we weren't awarded one for a very similar incident at the other end.

    But to stop bad refereeing decisions for good, I think goal-line technology should be introduced to football. It's a shame the dinosaurs in FIFA/UEFA won't take it onboard though.
     
  6. The The Hand

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    I'm getting fed up with the conspiracy. :56:

    Action will be taken this week though, apparently.

    Celtic are going to the mattresses, and not before time. :50:
     
  7. jamesfr

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    Can't make my mind up if there is corruption or the officials are just p*sh poor
    I would love to see a 3rd video ref and goaline technology which could easily clear up some of the vital and simple decisions that are missed on a regular basis such as goaline incidents ,penalties and offside,I would rather wait a few seconds on a video ref decision than have a goal allowed or dissalowed incorrectly.
    If the video ref is unsure he just passes the decision back to the ref simples

    I watched every Celtic game this season like all other seasons and have seen decisions go both ways
    I only hope next season that the team improves again so that this is no longer an issue
     
  8. Scotia Gold Member Gold Member

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    just poor decisions by refs for me but some you get some you dont. and celtic playing poorly doesn,t help either.
     
  9. GazF1888

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    What dodgy decisions have we got this season then? :rolleyes: Not borderline ones that could have went either way, I'm talking about down-right ridiculous calls.
     
  10. jamesfr

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    I remember 2 incidents when the ball was clearly over our line and goals were not given,one was against the huns ,I don't remember the other team
     
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  11. GazF1888

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    Clearly over the line? Hardly. :56: Replays couldn't even prove the ball was fully over. That's definitely borderline.

    So any actual ridiculous decisions that have went in our favour?
     
  12. pod

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    The other one was against Hearts at Swinecastle but to say the hun one was clear is a tad silly. Most people thought Forster had saved it and pushed it onto the post and even the replays are not that conclusive. As the rules are that the official must be 100% sure it simply cannot be counted as us getting a break.
     
  13. greengrocer

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    The only ridiculous one i think of was when Loovens brought down Sandaza. Stone wall penalty. But for me that is the only real bad one.
     
  14. GazF1888

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    Wouldn't exactly call that ridiculous, it probably should have been given but it wasn't an outrage that it wasn't. We were 2-0 up in a pretty meaningless game too, our bad decisions always seem to be in huge games.
     
  15. jamesfr

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    Was there not another earlier in the season?
     
  16. pod

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    It was against the diets the night we won 4-0 and it was in the first couple of minutes. From the two I could see why they would be annoyed as it was clearer but Ledley (who was on the line) was blocking the linesmans view so I can understand why it wasn't given.
     
  17. jamesfr

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    I think next season we should have 4 new threads

    1. Poll on decisons that went for Celtic in each game
    2. Results of each games poll on decisions that went for Celtic in each game -no comments or debate, just results of confirmed poll
    3. Poll on decisions that went against Celtic in each game
    4. Result of each games poll on decisions that went against Celtic in each game-no comments or debate,just results of confirmed poll

    Could be interesting at the end of next season.
     
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    I have read through this topic and as i said to my mrs yesterday at the final whistle lennon should have shook hearts managers hand and congratulated the hearts players for WINNING their way to the Scottish cup Final. I CANNOT believe what celtic is becoming, EVERY game that goes against us is the officials fault for 'corrupt' decisions. lets look at the latest 3 BIG games 1) Kilmarnock cup final - 1-0 loss, i find it hard to believe we were clutching to a penalty decision in the dying seconds to get us into extra time, if the celtic players had anything about them they should have had that game sewn up LONG before the 'dubious' pen decision. so in conclussion the players didn't perform, manager blames everyone BUT himself and his playing staff! 2) Rangers at Ibrox for the title - 3-2 loss, where do we start with this. the chance to do what EVERY celtic fan had dreamed of, win the title in their weedy back yard, again a couple of decisions Cha sending off lets begin by saying Cha should never have been in the position he was in and he gave the ref the decision to make, i thought a yellow would have been suffice but im not the offivial, second was Wanyamas red, wreckless tackle and deserved a red we cannot keep seeing these sorts of tackles, so again the celtic team didnt perform and with Lennon being sent off at half time not helping his team again it shows the lack of respect & proffesionalism for our great club his players NEEDED him on the sidelines and he wasnt there! (again!) so lets not blame the 'corrupt' refs for this either! 3) Hearts for place in scottish cup final -1-0 loss, easy! CELTIC DID NOT PERFORM! in my opinion the starting line up was completely wrong, when beattie came on we couldnt deal with him, how on earth did Ki miss TWO easy headers? Celtic of old would have won that game yesterday, even when they had went 1-0 down. lets forget the 'contoversial' decisions i dont think it was a penalty but nor was the celtic appeal. Ki should have been booked for diving, and hooper was offside for his equaliser! we lost because we couldnt cope with hearts frustrating us and we had nothing to offer. (as they have came out and said was their game plan)

    so in closing the whole this is personal, refs are against us, the SFA are against us is a whole load of utter tosh, WE ARE GLASGOW CELTIC, a club who takes 80,000 to seville for a cup final with no incident. we are a great club with great fans and in my opinion if lennon is set with another charge he should be relieved of his duties (along with his staff) and a more proffesional manager put at the helm. we CANNOT continue to see our great clubs name being tarnished like this and us celtic fans lets get a grip!
     
  19. smithy18

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    watch it again mate and you will see he does shake his hand along with the hearts players so try and make up something else
     
  20. smithy18

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    by the way lennon has only once said he thought it was personal and that was last night any other time he has put it down to poor and incompetent refereeing