Gloryhunters

There seems to be a lot of glory hunters who support Celtic in my opinion. They only seem interested when we're winning and whenever we don't, the cries of 'get the manager sacked' appear. The attitude of some fans is of spoiled children and we have been spoiled by success over the last decade. People go to matches and expect to be entertained but never actually support the team. Thoughts?

 

TBH, every big club in the world is going to have a % of gloryhunting fans.

However, at this moment in time, I think everyone has a right to be very unhappy with the team and manager. To beat St Mirren 7-0 and then lose 1-0 to them seven days latter just proves how hot and cold we are.

Since beating Rangers at Ipox, we have been poor, very very poor and thrown away a 7 point lead over Rangers, thats not championship form.

 

i agree completely Caroline1989, to much moaning and not enough supporting!!

 

I think you don't really have a clue about what Celtic means. We are one of the biggest clubs in the world with a tradition of fighting to the end and playing attractive football - both of which have been in short supply of late. To call a fan who expresses displeasure about this a 'gloryhunter' says more about you than it does them.

 

i wouldnt say glory hunters! just fans that are fed up with the way the team is playing and who plays! to me thats whats up with the fans at the moment.

 

Totally agree with that to be honest.

 

I'd agree with that

 

aye The supporters of today include a big element of spoiled children who have no sporting instincts and just want to get a win so some hun at work cant slag them.

I think this element of younger fans generally have not spent 99% of their youth playing football as was the case until about 20 years ago with most people. Their knowledge of football as a sport is therefore often very poor and this lack of understanding means all sorts of laughable calls for this or that are heard. Its more of a label or social club and they are basically not sports fans. They expect the league won every time, they expect trebles even though we have had only 3 in 120 years. Their expectations are not grounded on planet earth so they are always disappointed. This element is obvious mainly younger fans and also fans who mainly get to see/ watch too much EPL. When I was growing up you got about 10 minutes English highlights after the Scottish football and live games were extremely rare. So you didint sit and think we should be like the English league because you never saw it.

 

You could say that the glory hunters are the ones happy to watch the poor performances and still winning the leaugue, I like many other fans supported the team through the bad years of 9 in a row for Rangers but atleast in many of those seasons celtic played some great football.

 

spot on.

 

Tommy Burns followed tradition but won one cup and no leagues in several years. When Tommy Burns left many people said his downfall was being trapped in that tradition and not being cynical and tactical. The next year Wim Jansen won it with a rather boring stiff inflexible 4-4-2. The Celtic tradition basically was a failure except from 66-75. We had sides with far better players than now but they had no tactical discipline so we were a joke in Europe and had a patchy SPL record for the next 25 years after our 9 in a row. That is criminal considering how good some of our teams were and that was all down to the all out swashbuckling football tradition. Losing the swashbuckling approach and less pretty football has coincided with huge success. I remember years ago hating the continental style and being glad we hadnt adopted the keep-ball percentages game but I now know over the long hall it works even if we stutter and it none too exciting.

 

So what do you prefer. Tactical but boring success or flamboyant failure? I actually think yesterday WGS went against his intincts and played the pretty football lineup knowing he would be crucified if he dropped Crosas etc but he would have been right to have brought in the hard men in that game and been cynical about it.

 

I'd prefer the win first and silky football after. If we get both then that's a bonus.
We're never going to set the world on fire with the financial restraints we are bound in. I'll settle for the double this season and if we play teams of the park and lose the odd game then I'd say we had a bad day.

 

Why cant we be Flamboyant success?

 

The way SPL teams play against us there is not much hope of silky fitba winning it. In fact WGS has probably come the closest I can remember to blending success with ball players although even a big WGS backer like me would admit that we only see the really sparkling stuff intermittantly. Some fans do expect too much though. In the Kilmarnock game we played some really decent football to win a tough game but that was barely mentioned. I think people forget there are 2 teams on the pitch and one can do a * of a lot to stop the other playing. We have done it many times in the CL to teams who are miles better than us. We play those CL games by refusing to open up and playing untra negatively and running like maniacs and generally that has kept it very close, sometimes allowing us undeserved wins, draws or narrow defeats to teams who should be burying us. The other SPL teams have become much more tactically clever (ultra negative) in the last 5 years and they are just doing to us what we do to far better teams in the CL.

 

see post 12 above. Basically we cant get our hands on the level of player who are so good you can play exhibition open football and always win. I cant think of a consistently successful flamboyant Celtic side since the Lions. Our 10 years of success are based upon a recognision that strength and ultra-directness (MON's sides) or the long haul possession/percentages game (WGS) wins the SPL. For attempting flamboyance without top class players throught the team read Burns and Barnes.

 

Exactly right.
I think teams are playing against us with a 'as long as we keep it respectable' mentality. Not allowing us to play and killing the game. We get frustrated and when the result doesn't go our way we lash out.
I think the Killie game was a good game and we did really well to get the result.
The players and the manager deserves all the credit.

 

What a load of pish!

This 'glory-hunter' * gets my goat, it really does.

Supporters of every team will cheer when the team is winning and moan when people are playing * or not giving 100%.

Its that simple.

 

good one! i agree!!!