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Cheating Bastards or an Anomaly (Celtic Penalty Stats Vs Other Teams)

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by ILoveTheCeltic, Oct 9, 2022.

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  1. Henrik 07 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Going to assume it was the French
     
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  2. Sgt Neppers*

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    je ne parle pas anglais...:giggle2:
     
  3. Henrik 07 Gold Member Gold Member

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    Good shout
     
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    Good read that.
     
  5. Creativecelt Gold Member Gold Member

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    Lots of good analysis and points. I believe there is cheating going on. The telling point is the bookies not allowing punters to place a bet on Sevco being awarded a penalty during the match.
     
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  6. ILoveTheCeltic

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    Penalty difference in the League 2000-01 till 2011/12 and then 2016-17 till now (All seasons with one of the huns in the League)

    Celtic +61 penalty difference (Penalties awarded minus penalties conceded)
    Huns +98 penalty difference

    During those seasons Celtic have had 152 more points than them and 189 goal difference better than them. Celtic have topped the League in 13 of the 19 seasons.


    This is the penalty difference in the League from July 2018 to now:

    Huns = +36
    Hearts = +10
    Celtic = +9
    Kilmarnock = +8
    Hibs = +2
    St Johnstone = +1
    Hamilton = -1
    Dundee Utd = -1
    Aberdeen = -4
    Livingston = -7
    Dundee = -9
    Motherwell = -9
    St Mirren = -11
    Ross County = -12
     
  7. McChiellini..

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    All looks about right. Lol..
     
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  8. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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    League Penalties Conceded the last 4 seasons...
    Conceded (Scored)

    ~~~~~ Celtic - Sevco
    2022/23 6 (6) - 0 (0)
    2021/22 2 (1) - 3 (2)
    2020/21 5 (4) - 0 (0)
    2019/20 3 (1) - 2 (1)
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    Total 16 (12) - 5 (3)
    More than 3 times as many Celtic have been penalized as Sevco have had awarded against them.

    Also, Sevco have not had a single penalty awarded against them at Ipox since September 2019.​
     
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    2019 hahahahahahahahahahahaha..
     
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    Quite astonishing, no penalty awarded against Rangers at Ibrox since 2019.
    That must be a world record.
     
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    Since 2019?! * * haha

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    I'm sure it's all just an unfortunate coincidence.
     
  13. Rydo1888* Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Atleest the huns are topping some tables

    Another world record timmy ??
     
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    Kind of hard to have any goals scored from penalties against Sevco when they've not had any penalties awarded against Sevco. :87:
     
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    Those penalty stats are staggering , a third of the goals we've conceded are pens.
     
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    Thats nuts where you got this stat from??

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    See overall I am not so much sure cheating is the way I would describe it overall, yes there are games where I think that comes into play Bobby Madden Scottish Cup Semi last year being a prime example.

    What I do think is there is bias in decision making that works against us. So using some examples.

    Three handballs,

    1. Taylor yesterday vs St Mirren
    2. Smith for Hearts vs us
    3. Goldson vs DUTD

    They were all penalties for me but only one was given and it was the one against us, where as one for us and one against our rivals that are not so overall it gives our rivals an advantage.

    Again other examples

    1. Matt O’Riley vs Ross County
    2. Goldson vs Hearts

    One given against us where it hits his body first but then the Goldson one isn’t given.

    Another was foul outside box but continued into

    1.Tillman vs Partick
    2. Kyogo vs St Mirren

    The Tillman one clearly stopped yards outside the box but was given, Kyogo’s is very close to call but is overturned.

    1.Morelos vs us in LC final
    2. Ralston goal at Tyncastle vs Hearts

    Our goal is ruled out for Giakoumakis minimal contact push, Morelos pushes Mooy off balance with both hands goal stands.

    In the same game Clark sent off for St Johnstone for an awkward tackle with little contact or intent vs Jack yellow for a shocker with plenty of intent and recklessness that endangered an opponent.

    Another example was the Livi player getting upgraded to a red whilst Motherwell player on Starfelt kept as a yellow.

    The above are all instances where referees and on occasion the same referees have called very similar incidents for them in games and against us or their opponents in others, so the lack of consistency can only really be explained by a bias which may well be unconscious if we are being kind to refs.

    Some decisions can’t be explained by this 1.Abada offside call against Livi was a joke;
    2. Goldson save vs us in January is a stone wall penalty;
    3. Sands at the start of the season pulling down the Ross County striker when last man and already on a booking not being punished. Those three are decisions that cannot be explained any other way than cheating.
     
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    One thing that really winds me up is that "protecting" you're face with you're hands to avoid getting hit in the face with the ball is seen as having the hands in a natural position.

    Either you take the * ball to you're nose like a * man, or you move you're head to the side. Otherwise it is a penalty for me.

    You can easily stear the ball to a safe direction with the hands but if you head the ball it can often lead to a OG. They used this argument for Goldsons save vs us. Yes, that shot would most likely end up in the stands, but if Goldson head that ball, you never know what that would lead to.
     
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    Aww for * sake, don't give them an opportunity to claim another world record:56:
     
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