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Paul Tisdale

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Notorious, Oct 9, 2024.

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  1. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    From the Celtic way




    Paul Tisdale recently gave a presentation to a large group of Celtic academy youngsters. The B team were present, along with most of the under-19s squad, and some members of the under-17s set-up.

    The Head of Football Operations went through what Brendan Rodgers wants from his first-team players and how youths can work their way through the ranks.

    To many, Tisdale's address came as a surprise. Aside from the B team's Glasgow Cup final defeat to Rangers in April, he hasn't been spotted at any youth matches since his official appointment. The Englishman is known as somewhat of an elusive figure, and at least within the academy, he lives up to that reputation.
     
  2. oh bhoy

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    is what rodgers wants gonna be of any consequence beyond this summer
     
  3. henriks tongue

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    My guess is that he sets the valuations and others then negotiate (or try to) to the deal.
    Fundamentally if Tisdale is valuing targets way lower than their club (or indeed their true) valuation, that is a serious issue as it artificially lowers our headroom to conclude transfers.
    Is he given a steer from the likes of Lawell to keep things low, that's even worse.
    Maybe he's fighting really hard to increase our ambition in the market?
    We simply don't know - which is part of the wider transparency issues.

    Either which way, his appointment does not seem to be going well.
     
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  4. RogicHasMagicToes

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    Brendan wanted Lee Congerton first time round, second time round he wanted Paul Tisdale

    Both head scouts haven't been close to good enough, not only does Brendan himself have a terrible eye for a player but he also has a terrible eye for people (scouts) who are supposed to have a good eye for a player

    That third goal Braga scored against Kilmarnock today, the quick feet to round the GK and finish, £500K he cost, yet we've spent £11M on a player in Engels who after a full season as an attacking 8 has never looked capable of that type of finish, something is badly wrong in the recruitment department

    I've seen more than enough of Tisdale, he's had three separate windows now and shouldn't be getting another, get him to *
     
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    I agree with you on Tisdale and think he's another that needs to go and your point about Engels is fair but not necessarily on Engels.

    The guy was never an attacking 8. Rodgers arrogantly said he would make him one. However his great development plan for our most expensive signings was basically to just play him out of position for a season in hope he'd figure it out and when that didn't happen he just dumped him on the bench for another player he's playing out of position.

    "Elite manager"
     
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  6. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    From the 42.IE




    Paul Tisdale, appointed as Celtic’s head of football operations in October 2024, is understood to have been one of his key allies and would not have had strong ties to the hierarchy above.

    Indeed, it’s understood that when Celtic eventually did end up signing striker Kelechi Iheanacho – who Rodgers worked with at Leicester City – in the summer, non-executive chairman Peter Lawwell and chief executive officer Michael Nicholson were somewhat blindsided as communication with Rodgers was so limited.

    The pair, along with former Exeter City boss Tisdale, will want a stronger say in who does eventually become the permanent replacement.
     
  7. RogicHasMagicToes

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    Nowhere near enough heat on this guy, the amount of money squandered on * under this guy is sickening, needs hunted
     
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    Who have we squandered money on under him that is so sickening exactly?

    He's had 2 windows and we've spent money on 6 players. Jota, Tounekti, Nygren, Balikwisha, Inamura, Yamada.

    Of the 6 id say 3 get pass marks, as for the other 3; 2 cheap punt's on boys from Japan, which is a strategy we've been employing long before he came in and Balikwisha was someone we were tracking long before he came in and very nearly signed a year earlier so wouldn't say any of they 3 are on him.

    As for the other signings. Osmund looks a good one, Sarrachi is our best left back, Pusey we have no idea as he can't get a game but came with a good pedigree and is only on loan so not a high fee, Doohan is 3rd choice keeper who ticks a box and will be on low wages.

    And finally Tierney would have been brought back regardless of who was in charge. Although granted if you want to point at a player and say we've squandered a * ton of money on then he's the man.

    So I'm really struggling to see what signings of his we've squandered money on.
     
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    I think a lot of the players we were linked with in the summer were good on paper.

    Carlos Borges for example who scored 2 for brugge last night, rejected us. So you'd imagine he was one Tisdale identified.

    I struggle to put serious blame at his door when it was evident we weren't getting 1st or even 2nd/3rd choice targets tied down.

    I refuse to believe he didn't suggest numerous RW to replace Kuhn either. Given how much of a shambles our structure is, I really find it hard to pin blame on any one individual as to be honest I'm not sure who has the biggest influence.
     
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    I’ve said this almost anytime his names popped up judging by a lot guys we’ve been credibly linked with interest in, the wide spread net for guys in a lot of different markets, a lot that got us excited and looked like it would have been good business…

    That we of course went on and didn’t sign. I think that looks like he’s doing his job in who he identifies at least. Our board and how we conduct ourselves trying to sign players is abjectly incompetent. We move at a snails pace, we don’t answer clubs, we low ball, * in the fan meeting the board said they found transfers difficult because different tax laws in different countries, something every club deals with - just highlights how poor we are when it comes to it.

    Any good player he’s highlighted will have more interest than just us, and generally it’s them they end up at.

    He could serve up the next Messi and Ronaldo on a plate, and we would most likely fumble that. We won’t know how good or not he is, until we are actually capable of conducting ourselves like a serious football club.
     
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  11. RogicHasMagicToes

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    Mate, recruitment is a huge issue and he's at the top in charge of it in relation to identifying players to sign, he's had three windows btw, he was here for Idah, Engels and Trusty last Summer too, that was also his window

    You can't count Jota as good scouting when he was already a former player

    Balikwisha is also on Tisdale regardless of whether we were scouting him before his arrival or not because if he has a good eye for a player then he should have watched footage of Balikwisha and scrubbed his name off the list, the fact he didn't is on him

    Tounetki is an attacking player who has practically no end product, how you can have him down as a pass mark as it stands is baffling, Nygren isn't a pass mark either as it stands, you need to raise your bar if both those players are already pass marks in your eyes
     
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    He’s definitely not at the top in charge of it. The board are the guys that are in charge of buying players and getting them here.
     
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    I obviously meant he's the one in charge of identifying the players for the board to sign
     
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    How can we judge him when we know just how shocking they are at acting on it to bring them in? Any of the better ones highlighted will be gone to other clubs when we’re waiting on Nicholson to open his inbox or Desmond a letter on his desk
     
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    Even the profile of player is all wrong, majority of Tisdale signings are getting bullied in Europe, far too weak, need physical specimens, even MON mentioned this last night, nowhere near a physical enough side at that level and Tisdale has now had three windows to identify that profile of player yet Balikwisha, Engels, Tounekti, Nygren is what he's came up with, very little physicality
     
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    His job is to find players under direction of what the management team wants. He’s not a DoF. Finds the profile of what the manager wants, manager oks it, board tries to make that happen
     
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    People finally starting to realise this guy is a absolute clown that needs rid off instantly.

    Small clubs in europe have a highly competent and impressive recruitment strategy. We have a hat enthusiast calling himself "The Football Doctor"
     
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    Massive difference is those clubs have teams, data analysis, scouts, heads of recruitment, directors of football etc who are importantly backed by owners of the club and trusted to get on with their business using their knowledge of the game.

    We have 1 guy and a couple of scouts, a few of whom have regularly shown themselves up to be pretty poor.

    This doesn't fall on 1 guy it's falls on the structure of the club and that won't change as long as we allow a massively out of touch old man who owns a minority stake in the club to dictate everything we do through his hand picked idiots.

    We could sack Tisdale and go and hire Midtjyllland or Brugges head of recruitment tomorrow but as long as they are only allowed a maximum speed of £5m/player and £25k/week wages and we need permission from that fat * Lawwell to up bids by £200k for guys from Dundee then nothing changes.
     
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    Yes they do, but it all depends on how much controll Tisdale have. If he have much controll its on him. He is the Head of recruitment and it is his job to get those scouts in, the data analytics systems etc. If he spent all that time and the best he could come up with is Balikwisha, we are in some amount of trouble.

    But in the end it comes down to Desmond as he has the power. I think the best thing the fans can do is to push desmond to modernise the club, not hounding him away because he wont leave no matter how crazy the protests go.

    We need to push him in to a modern era which is * ridiculous that we have to push the club of this size.
     
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    The profile of player he identifys is based on what the manager wants.

    Most people agree with MONs comment regarding physicallity but it's been a flaw in our recruitment for the past 5 years going right back to Ange's time. He was quoted early on in his 1st season saying he preferred smaller more mobile CBS that were better on the turn bcoz he played such a high line. During his 1st season Starfelt was the only player in his team over 6 foot and even then he was only 6,1.

    Rodgers has clearly identified similar profiles, even looking back to his 1st spell we regularly only had 3 or 4 players over 6 feet