Midtjylland v Celtic Thursday November 6th kick off 5:45 TNT sports 2

Any competitive league for that matter. You can scale it up and look at Bayern last year in the CL battering teams in the league phase and then looking exposed in the knockouts. PSG are probably the only exception I can think of where they dominate domestically and still look solid in Europe against top sides but they have insane quality defenders.

 

Who was that Commentator tonight on TNT, sounded like a right Hun.

 

Lagerbielke
Palma
Oh
Giakoumakis

All scored for their clubs Europe tonight..

Edit: Lagerbielke's goal been given to someone else

 

Said at the time, Giakoumakis gets in most Celtic sides in the last 10years but was unlucky to have peak Kyogo in front of him.

 

Comes at a premium though we’d rather buy cheap potential

 

How did he even become a commentator with a voice like that? Brutal listening to him.

 

Whoever he was was that bad he had me pining for Rory Hamilton ffs

 

* will turn into Messi now, remember him after his Mrs came over.

 

Surname was Lyall. First name maybe John not sure.

 

Expected nothing tonight. Honestly couldn't give a * about Europe this season, I'd play the reserves and focus on clawing back the deficit in the league.

 

aye but we have a plan to reach a european final within 5 years ,by selling all our best players

 

Didn’t see the game due to being on holiday but wasn’t expecting much. Hopefully the result expedites our search for a new manager.

 

Good lord! They've managed to spend almost €70M in transfers in 3 years by weighing the actual value of constructive investment and strategy... From a tiny wee town in nowhere and an average crowd of about 10k per match...

How * shoddy and * does that make us look...

 

Another game during it, it was clear we needed to change the shape tweak stuff a bit and tried to change the game by changing personnel instead.

It seems to be a thing whoever’s in the dugout for us is allergic to doing.

It was very, very poor from us that. They scored quality goals, that we should have defended better regardless of the quality of finishes. They were shooting and creating at will, and I think out of everything Scales, Trusty and Kaspar did play well. And that’s something that shows defensively, the rest of the team weren’t helping at all.

Don’t know if extra time on Sunday had us a bit leggy, we were that extra wee bit of too late trying to close down or running back instead of closing down.

Engels and Calmac were moving out wide to try and cover for fullbacks that were left isolated by the wingers, Maeda aside and that was a big help to improve slightly 2nd half, as Calmac was able to be more in the middle. Tounekti was no -existent defensively, that can’t be allowed again. Much better player than Balikwisha, but the penalty and goal came from Balikwisha working and pressing.

They sit top of Europa, they have some really good talent, they are well coached and know what they want to do but we made that easy for them there. We made them look excellent.

I don’t think they are, they had nervy play when pressed, they had large gaps between CB’s, full backs and midfield. That was a team that we should never be allowing to do that to us, we played into their hands.

I can mind Calmac after Dortmund talking about how we started playing as individuals rather than teammates part of a whole after we went 3-1 down against them. 2-0 down within a minute, when we’d done ok until about 6/7 mins before they done that, thats what we done again.

We’re lucky they didn’t really press the issue between the 3rd and halftime, they could have done anything they wanted. 2nd half we defended as a team a bit better, but we were defeated mentally, scared to try and push up to get into the game. Played into their hands. We had a chance after the penalty, shows enough that an early goal second half we wouldn’t be out of it. That was really * poor.

 

Its the results like these this evening that should be sounding alarm bells in the club hierarchy. The last 15 years or so have been riddled with them. Its imperative we broaden or horizons beyond being the best of a poor SPL.

Theres a real sense of helplessness when it comes it though. We drop back down to SPL level. Beat a few hopelessly overmatched opponents. A few of our players have a decent game and the support starts convincing themselves they are the level required.

Then we step up and face an actual half decent side in Europe instead of a dog * SPL outfit and its depressing seeing how miles off a good team we are and how bang average some of our players really are.

Progressing against rangers really lifted the mood but lets face it - they are absolutely * as Europe has proved. A team like Midtjylland would have probably put 3 or 4 past the easily in regulation time when they went down to 10 men.

 

Yeah,took every opportunity to savage the team.His comments were snidey and verged on gloating..DOB.

 

I don’t think we do as a support, if anything we have downplayed how dominant we have been domestically as an achievement, albeit still enjoying and celebrating that.

Even BR’s first spell as manager that was something that was aimed at him, and before him domestic trebles were a rare thing indeed. But he only had a brief glimpse of good European form the Invincible year that ultimately still failed. Was utter abject after that until last season.

And not building on last season has the support hounding the board. MON coming in has the support backing the manager and the team, especially because after what BR was serving up, it’s exciting on the pitch and the opposite of what was our frustrations all season. But that still has came with protests against those in charge.

We can celebrate the team, enjoy our wins and successes, we can definitely celebrate a Calmac screamer and a young 19 year old coming in from nowhere to win 3-1 in extra time against the Huns and being buzzing anout that.

Don’t think anyone who has been happy in the last week because of that excuses the lack of competence we’ve shown at board level and off the pitch. It doesn’t go hand in hand enjoying our wins and the concern about the leadership and ambition as a club.

 

Im not sure about that. I think one of the biggest challenges to enacting real change at the club is because its been so easy to win domestically.

As you say - most supporters just want to support the team and enjoy the wins and trophies when they come. Thats absolutely normal.

But by being so dominant domestically it has typically lifted a huge amount of pressure off the board. There will be grumbling with the poor European performances. But at the end of the season we usually win the league and theres a sense of lets just enjoy it and look to next season. And the cycle kind of repeats itself. Same issues manifest themselves, Europe is a disappointment, but by the end of the season we have a league title to celbrate.

This is the really the first season where there has been genuine organised protest at how the club is operating. You could point to the Covid year also perhaps but I think that was more specific to changing the manager rather than wholesale changes at the club in general. But the better the team does on the pitch - the harder it is to sustain the momentum for change.

These results like tonight are so depressing because it lays bare just how average a side we are despite coming in on the back of a few feel good victories.

 

Spot on for it being a big challenge that. We look spoiled as * for complaining, and the board will always point towards it. The balance of that though is acknowledging it is a very good achievement, to be celebrated but it’s not the bar to be set. It’s unique as a club.

We’ve done so from time to time but this time round was a step too far. Its because we steadily were working our way up in Europe, once again after * hit the fan Covid season. We got lucky with Ange but we conducted business well, Ange demanded as much.

He left, and BR’s first window was a joke. And it was hitting up to that level of pressure and the next summer, we totally changed, backed the manager and done business well.

And were rewarded for it, best showing in Europe and were * unlucky when we went out. And we all knew we were on the cusp of cementing us as a CL level team. And then we almost just intentionally sabotaged it. And that’s why its hit the fan. We were moving in the right direction with a couple of bumps along the way, and slammed the breaks on.

Just like we done last time, Lenny getting into the last 16. That resulted in Deila and the stadium that empty we shut the top stand and put banners on the seats instead. Then Rodgers and moving the right way again… then covid.

It’s a pattern of just enough never too much. And we’re sick of it now.

 

This is exactly our problem. Our board aiming to barely stay a nose hair ahead of the Huns and thinking that’s enough.
This whole bullshit of “we need a strong rangers to keep Scottish football interesting”!
Bollocks, we need a strong Celtic to raise the standard of Scottish football, not lower ourselves to the best of the rest.
Let them raise their game to catch us!