Shin Yamada

That fans where looking for solutions or options to blindingly obvious problems that Rodgers wasn't getting close to addressing shouldn't be that surprising.

We still don't know what happened at the end and maybe there is more to it but Rodgers did himself no favours this time. He's been lazy and disengaged most of this tenure has been my personal assessment. If that's at odds with others then fair enough but his man management credentials certainly haven't helped in persuading me otherwise.

 

On this subject in particular I just felt it was based on nothing we had seen from Shin, because if truth be told, the minutes he had, he had done nothing in my opinion. So when you then had fans, plenty of them talking about it just being down to Rodgers ego as to why he wasn’t playing, I just thought it was daft. Now MON has come in and Shin isn’t even making the bench, so clearly there was a footballing reason as to why Rodgers wasn’t picking him.

I actually said after the Hearts game that I would sack Rodgers just to get a new face to see if we could get a lift. Some of the stuff from fans towards Rodgers, not just this season either by the way, because many fans have still been going in on him since the minute he come back, I just cannot get on board with. Put it this way, I seriously hope our next manager is as successful as he is.

 

Not sure if you were one of them, but you had fans calling Rodgers treatment of the two Japanese players a disgrace. Wild takes on it.

 

Very difficult to say that for me.

Would've easily said the same about Kenny and Osmand a week ago. Now they're shining lights that deserve more opportunities.

Doesn't take much to get fans onside. If he gets minutes against Kilmarnock for example and scores, the perception changes so much. Not saying he will, but that's how easily minds change.

I don't think there's much between Kenny, Osmand, and Yamada from what I've seen from all 3.

 

It doesn't take much to get fans on side but I just don't see him getting the opportunities. He's basically 5th choice striker at the moment. Even if Kenny and Osmand flop, another striker would come in and he'd be 3rd at best.

It was odd bringing in Osmand and him while keeping Kenny.

I found it odd Idah continued to play knowing he was leaving, and he'd checked out. He did get some game time and did nothing, but I suppose that could be a wider team issue. But Maloney obviously thinks he's not as good as Kenny or Osmand.

With Inamura, I just found it an odd signing, a left sided left centre back when you had Scales, Trusty or KT who could play that role. I found it a bit wild people wanted him as back up LB rather than signing a second actual left back purely because he'd had a couple of okay pre-season friendlies.

Both should have had a plan, arranged loans and got used to the scottish game. I'm sure someone will have them in January. That's a club issue rather than a Rodgers issue. I don't even like Rodgers that much, but the ruining their careers stuff that was being chucked about was mental.

 

True. But Maloney spoke quite well about him there so I think the chances will come for him in match day squads. No doubt Kenny and Osmand are in the driving seat with Iheanacho hopefully not too far away either.

But dunno. Wouldn't be ruling him out just yet

 

Fair enough.

I do personally think Rodgers didn't give him a fair crack of the whip, same as Inamura and was definitely making a point of it in a power struggle with the board but that's just my opinion.

Unfortunately there's a lot of smoke and mirrors about how Celtic do their business and we received mixed messages from Rodgers and no messages from the board about it, so speculation runs rife whichever way people perceive it. Either he has input on the signings or he doesn't, and if he does then why not give chances to these guys he deemed good enough to green light? If he doesn't, why say he does? Why defend the board stating they bleed green and white and work hard in the background?

Can't trust the guy tbh and nor the board for that matter which is a sorry state of affairs. I'm hoping the players weren't/aren't suffering as a result of that disconnect but in the case of Osmand it seems apparent they were.

 

I don't believe I said that but I wouldn't be that far from that opinion. I wanted Rodgers to improve as his record has been ok this tenure so that felt fair but he wasn't doing a good job when he left and showed plenty of failings.

If he'd stuck about he had my grudging support but quite relieved he's gone and it does look to be better for the team and club.

Whether he was treated fairly is hard to say as we don't know what happened at the end.

 

With Shin and Inamura, Shved previously, he has made it abundantly clear he hasn’t signed these players. I think in his first summer window, most of the players had already been identified. I get what you’re saying though about defending the board, but in a way I understand it. That was his employers at the end of the day, so he is kind of limited as to what he can say. He made his feelings clear all summer however about transfers, as did McGregor. Both of their words fell of deaf ears.

 

Dress it up any way you want...Rodgers proved beyond all doubt that he was unwilling and unable to do his job. Coaching his players and giving them a platform to improve and perform.

I can almost guarantee MON and Maloney will get a tune out of Shin down the line, because they are humble men who want to help their players. And also because they won't be fannying about with tactical instructions Einsten would struggle with and play players to their strengths.

Anyone defending Rodgers on this issue is majorly deluded.

 

Disappointed we haven't seen more of Shin. From the little we've seen of him he's struck me as a cross between Carlos Tevez and Luis Suarez, only a bit better

 

Don’t know why we didn’t loan two Japanese lads out for that year. Get them used to Scottish football and see how they develop

 

Not making any judgement on him yet, he’s looked alright when I’ve seen him, but not enough to make a call. The fact he’s not in the squads suggests he’s not ready or at the right level, but needs some minutes to see what he’s about. If he can’t get in squads in the new year that probably answers the question though.