Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Still hope he tears into the board by the way.

 

We often forget in all the furor of coaching styles and tactics that first and foremost players are employees, like most of us are. When you have a gaffer that you find a bit of a *, you do lose a bit of drive. Especially after a couple of years when his head starts to go and you can see publicly that he's being a bit two-faced/political.

A lot to be said for charisma in a football manager, and it's Brendan's biggest issue above and beyond anything else.

 

The fans were right behind him after Kairat and the press conference he gave not long after it. He's * it for himself since tho, fans were starting to turn after the Dundee game and that comment, it was a nonsense thing to say against a team put together on a shoestring. He was, imo sabotaging the team to make a point to certain board members by leaving players out the squad altogether and refusing to change his tactics and in that sense putting himself & his ego first. The bulk of the players were clearly unhappy with him & I think things were only going to get worse. The difference in the squad harmony since he left really brings home just how much the players weren't enjoying things under him. I hadn't really noticed it but the freedom and new approach the team has is in stark contrast to a couple of weeks ago.

 

This is 100% it. He's a cracking manager and he was absolutely messed about either intentionally or through incompetence.

O'Neill has been great so far and it was a shrewd hire but it's been two games. I absolutely adore him but the game has moved on lots.

Rodgers' contract should have been priority 1 after we went out of Europe last year given we were winning the league at a canter. Just awful, awful planning.

 

He said he would only sign a new contract if there was certain changes and guarantees made. This is all the fallout of a power struggle and the board were always going to win.

 

Where did he say that?

 

Not me you quoted but hesaid that in the interview where he qlso said he is not here to maintain if i remeber correctly

If there is one thing i agree with the board on is to not let Rodgers be in power of the transfers. He cant find a * in a brothel which he is known for. I said that back when he was re-hired as well.

Should still have made signings though but my guess is that he threataned not to play them if it wasnt players by his choice.



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Press conference, the one where he demanded whoever briefed against him should be fired etc. said he wanted to stay but changes would have to be made for him to sign a new contract.

 

What a load of tosh. The Brendan Hoax.

Come again ?.

 

We would have been humped yesterday if he was still here. Football was atrocious for so long now. No plan B. Stuck with his favourites no matter what. Wouldn’t have even seen Osmand play yet. Probably wouldn’t have played Kenny from the start it would’ve been Maeda with Nygren or Forrest on the right and Hatate instead of either Engels or Forrest.

 

Rodgers way of deciding whether a player can be good enough is depending where they ply their trade this has been obvious from the start


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Im a bit surprised he's not said anything, unless he signed some sort of non disclosure deal.. which would seem unlikely if he resigned

 

Good chance that he will come out with his side of the story in the coming weeks, especially after what Desmond said in his statement about him and his antics.

 

Seems very odd. Easy to speculate a whole load of reasons but signing an NDA seems unlikely the way Desmond went for him.

 

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Good chance that We will hear his side of the story if he gets either the Wolves or Southampton jobs, saying that though,not sure if any of those clubs would go near him after what he has done recently with us.

 

Aw totally agreed about reinvesting in the squad. I meant I’m beginning to agree about his comments about him being self-serving, not at all about the structure and strategy of the club.

 

Posted in the MON thread but I’ll stick this in here as well


Martin O'Neill derby effect a blow for Rodgers and modern coaching


Between 2000 and 2005, Martin O’Neill racked up a formidable win rate in games against Rangers. The best, it transpires, of any manager in Celtic history.


His first spell in charge delivered a victory percentage of 75.53 per cent, marginally better than Ange Postecoglou, Jock Stein, Neil Lennon and Brendan Rodgers.

Stein, it should be said, faced significantly stronger Rangers teams than this one. Most of them did.

Despite a battling, gruelling second-half effort when the 10 men disrupted Celtic’s rhythm and dragged the game into another extra time, Rangers coach Danny Rohl has a * of a job on his hands. Thelo Aasgaard could have stayed on the pitch for 120 minutes and the defence would still have looked like a speeding train wreck.

O’Neill’s latest triumph propelled Scotland’s champions back to another Premier Sports Cup final. And made a compelling case for giving the veteran boss an opportunity to finish the job against St Mirren on December 14. Stepping into the breach at short notice, a chance is the least he deserves.

The influence of Shaun Maloney offered an interesting postscript to victory. As extra-time dawned, it was the younger coach who rallied, harried and cajoled the team as O’Neill stood back and left him to it. By the end of extra time the old boy still spoke, in self-deprecating terms, of feeling 73 going on 94. A reluctant conscript, he can’t bring himself to contemplate an extended stay.

One look at the Celtic who turned up yesterday, however, and directors – like fans – are bound to ask where they might find a candidate with a better grasp of the harsh realities of life in the east end of Glasgow than Martin O’Neill?

If he’s fit, if he’s able, if he’s willing, they can afford to take their time searching for a permanent Rodgers replacement. The search can – and might – extend into the festive period or as far as next summer, if need be. While the team is cupped in the safe hands of O’Neill, that’s okay.

When the final whistle rang out, the Pied Piper of Seville punched the air and it felt as if someone had fired up the DeLorean and zapped Celtic back two decades.

O’Neill on the Hampden touchline seeing Rangers off the premises again. Older, if not wiser, as he leapt up and down in angst when James Forrest was penalised for an innocuous challenge on Mikey Moore minutes earlier. The game, for the record, was already won. As Celtic drew level with their bitter rivals on 11 semi-final wins apiece, fans left Hampden asking the same question: Where was this intensity, this passion, this will to win in the final months of the Rodgers era?

Maybe there’s something to be said for the old ways. Against a young, progressive, modern coach in Rohl, O’Neill struck a blow for septuagenarians everywhere when he set his team up to snap into tackles, playing with fresh intensity. They get the ball forward quicker than they used to. With Larsson or a Sutton playing up front, they would have won it in 90 minutes.

In the absence of genuine quality in key positions, improbable heroes came from nowhere. Sidelined for much of the season, £11 million Arne Engelsgives Celtic a threat from set-pieces they lack when he’s not in the team, teeing up Johnny Kenny to bury his corner for the opening goal.


The notion that Kenny might offer an answer to Celtic’s problems at centre-forward should be shelved. Limping towards the January window, however, O’Neill and Maloney have found a way to get goals from the Irishman. Carry on getting a tune out of the lively, under-used Callum Osmand, they might reel Hearts in yet.

You’d have paid good money for the thoughts of Rodgers last night. Watching a Honda Civic revved up like a Ferrari, it must have made for uncomfortable viewing.

Kenny made it three goals in two games. Auston Trusty, the £6m man left out against Hearts, bossing the defence. Young Osmand coming in from the cold and finishing the decisive goal like Kyogo Furuhashi in his prime. Written off and consigned to B-team obscurity by the previous manager, it’s fair to ask: “Why?”

Rodgers was prone to holding court on the place power, pace and intensity has in the Celtic DNA. Come season three, installing those qualities in his team was the hard part. Watching Celtic for much of this season was like watching football players traipsing through quicksand. The team was laboured, pedestrian and dull to watch.