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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. Westlondonscot Gold Member Gold Member

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    Depends on how you look at it, last summer he was given Idah and Engels, £20m for the two, then £6m for Trusty.

    He's decided they aren't good enough and I do wonder if that's * someone off or they just don't trust him with money to spend. It's then followed by the refusal to play several of the signings this summer. I would understand Osmand and Yamada if Kenny wasn't absolute dog *. Four CBs have come in since he's joined, the two that were here already are the starting pair.
     
  2. Blochairnbhoy

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    He looses the 3 against

    Sturm Graz
    Hearts
    Rangers

    the fans will turn, he needs (but won’t) to win all 3 to turn the momentum and feelings in the stands.

    don’t gamble but wonder if you would get an accumulation bet on Celtic losing all 3 would get generous odds I imagine.
     
  3. constant

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    Those quotes yesterday by Rodgers that he has never been so up for the job, has got to be the biggest porkie and load of guff ever uttered by him.

    He looks totally deflated on the touchline and a beaten man in his post match interviews.

    It's a farce, and the Board are letting it slide into a unsalvageable crisis.
     
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  4. murphy88

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    Idah, Engels and Trusty were all key players in us having our best European campaign in a very long time. Irrespective of that though, when you look at our nett spend, there’s nobody can conclude Rodgers has been backed. That summer window was an absolute disgrace and there’s absolutely zero excuses for it. Literally none.
     
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  5. murphy88

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    We won’t lose all 3. I couldn’t care less about tonight in the grand scheme of things, but I think we will win tonight.
     
  6. MickMaeda

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    You could be right, you're probably right. But what if he's now realised that he's not imune from the anger that most Celtic fans feel.

    What if he realises that the fans are saying "yes the board shat on you, but you've still got enough to work with"

    Maybe from now on he'll stop * about and put out the best team , with the best tacticts.
     
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  7. murphy88

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    What is our best team and tactics? We’re still going to have the worst attacking options in the last 30 years to choose from.
     
  8. constant

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    The Board sanctioned a £26M spend last summer on transfer fees for Rodgers. That was a big outlay for a team like Celtic. Rodger's failure to win the last five Hun games, obviously factored into their cautious equations this season. Significant extra transfer money would arguably have been available, if Rodgers had successfully navigated our Champions League qualifier with minnows Kairat, ranked 311th in UEFA. Rodgers failed miserably. He had a squad bolstered by a net £26M of new players, and yet his slipshod management of the Celtic team resulted in us failing to score a single goal in both ties, with the Kairat journeymen. It was a disgrace, and he should have been fired for that capitulation imo. No one can say with a straight face that Rodgers was not backed by the Board.
     
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  9. Dianbobo Balde

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    I think if he at least tries to make some meaningful changes he will get buy in from the support and go some way towards dispelling suspicions hes just on autopilot until season end.

    Something to acknowledge that we need a fresh approach and the current set up isnt working. From the off. Not a few reactive tweaks when we are 1 nil down and havent had a shot on target.
     
  10. Champions67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    You need to brush up on your facts. If you're going to talk *, at least make sure what you're saying is accurate. There was no net spend of £26M last year. Since Brendan has returned we've made a net profit of £50M on transfers. Made a profit in every window. Everything you've said there is completely false.
     
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    I have no idea, but I don't think Rodgers has been doing the best with what he's got. However as a result of recent fan critism he might tonight.
     
  12. Jackie Daytona Gold Member Gold Member

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    I’d back him for sure if he showed some tactical flexibility.

    If different formations fail to work at least we tried. Beats watching 90 mins of Scales to CCV and back while McGregor points at random places.
     
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  13. JamesM09

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    He’s simply got to do something. He can’t keep putting out the same team playing the same way.

    He’s got options in that squad. The midfield is a problem but he’s got Bernardo, Engels and arguably Balikwisha that can all bring youth, energy and talent to the middle of the park. If you’re a coach at all you should be able to get something out of those 3.

    Persisting with McGregor, Hatate and Nygren as a combination won’t suddenly start working.
     
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    Said it weeks ago, and will say it again - the board has Brendan right where they want him.

    Think the only way that Maloney could be given the job any time soon is in a reduced pressure situation, where the manager is sacked and he becomes care taker as his trial. What we do know is he’s in the building biding his time.

    Being given the job outright would cause a revolt from the fans and would be reckless for his career. Reckon being given it as the follow up to Rodgers would be just as reckless.
     
  15. Mr Shelby Administrator Administrator

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    Things aren't great at the moment but it shouldn't be taking heat off the board either. Is my concern.

    When (now a matter of when not if) BR goes they'll still be here. And they'll still be a problem.

    He hasn't been sufficiently backed. This £26m will be talked about for decades by the sounds of it. Fact is if the board had acted efficiently it'd have been maybe £15m tops we'd have spent.

    Folk who genuinely think Rodgers handles the fees and every aspect of a deal need their heid and facts checked.
     
  16. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    He can (in the style of Mick McCarthy).
     
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    Genuinely no one talks more nonsense than him. It's unreal
     
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    No question Rodgers is not the real issue IMHO its the board and Desmond and until they are replaced everything else is just noise. I mean even the idea of getting rid of Rodgers and then handing appointing his replacement to the very people who are running our club into the ground and are happy to self sabotage the team and publicly stab the manager in the back is insanity. Rodgers is not immune from criticism but he is not the real problem at the club that is clearly Desmond, Lawwell, Nicholson and McKay.
     
  19. henriks tongue

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    Both manager and board are issues.
    One is temporary and recoverable, the other permanent and broken
    The focus must be on the board.
     
  20. celtic warrior

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    Backed, not backed. I dont care, he is not getting anywhere near enough out of the squad of players.

    Our entire squad does not go through an insane slump in form since the Bayern defeat that continuously regressed since then and the sole issue be transfers.

    Since then Rodgers has said various things about performances and not a single thing has changed. His decision making and continued use of wasters like Yang is all squarely on him.

    I cant begin to imagine, whether they are out of position or whatever it may be, that guys like Balikwisha, Yamada, Inamura, Engels, Trusty, Sinisalo are all so demonstrably worse options than their counter parts that they can not be used and yet Yang persists in the starting 11.

    Two things can be true in that the board should be the main focus of fan ire, but Rodgers separate to that should also be subject to deep criticism of his inability to keep his mouth shut in the media as well as, unsurprisingly being an hypocrite of saying one thing and doing another.

    This is all very covid season lite right now and there could have been arguments that Lennon wasn't back properly that season. Didn't stop fans wanting him gone after a string of poor results.

    The same should be true of Rodgers.
     
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