Mondays Meeting

I thought they would try and offer vague we will do better type lines on Monday in a bid to do just what you say there divide and conquer when it comes to the support. But instead they have actually I think done the opposite and made sure we stay strongly united given their total dismissal that there are any issues with the running of the club on Monday and the dismissal of the backstabbing hit piece on Rodgers shows there is a real streak of maliciousness not just incompetence to the board even to the extent that they are willing to self sabotage our own club. I have been on this forum a long time now and I like to think I have always been pretty toned down when it comes to being critical of the club over the years and certainly not indulging in near * reactions. As a life long supporter going back to the early 80's I can genuinely say I have not been this gutted about how our club is been run since the early 90's and the years leading up to the removal of the Kellys and Grants. I am not saying the club is in as bad a state we were then as obviously that is not the case. But the fact remains for me I have not been this totally disgusted with how the club is been run and by the people running the club since then.

 

"JG asked if the football manager sanctioned all signings, MN confirmed that he did. MGe asked why the Manager referred to some signings as ‘club signings’ – MN shrugged his shoulders"

This is by far the most ludicrous part of those minutes. Probably shows noone is even reviewing the minutes the fact they published that without any other context or explanation.

 

Never felt so unattached to celtic

 

What a pile of * they are.

No accountability or responsibility taken.

Can't believe they actually use the Annual Report as a point to claim they do engage with fans - it's a legal document they need to * present!

They really do wholly fail to understand the engagement the fans are asking for.

As for the little answers they do give, as James says, they don't actually answer anything and defer to giving us info at a later date through their acknowledgement of * engagement.

This was an exercise for them to try and squash the discontent and hope it bought them time and the international break etc let's it all wash away.

Arseholes the lot of them.

"Do you accept that board members who have no place on the board have been there too long in relation to UK governance?"
"Aye, but naw, we follow another rule that says it's alright"


And the fact they're comparing themselves to * Man United of all teams - are they even that out of touch with football as a whole?




Also...

Also....

Brexit? * Brexit?
Brexit doesn't remotely affect us in the way they claim it does.
Not for signing European players anyway!



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It is patently obvious that Nicholson should be nowhere near a football club. He is totally out of touch and out of his depth. Incompetent and arrogant weasel.

 

Also the bit where they are asked about the reasoning behind increasing season ticket prices whilst having so much cash in the bank and it being a cost of living crisis they answered by speaking about UEFA and European tickets.

The club must have a reason for increasing the price of season books if they don't it is simply a case of greed.

For these to be 'agreed' minutes just shows how much of a binfire of our boardroom actually is

 

Breakdown from the meeting on the Cynic podcast


https://thecynic.co/podcasts/cynic-free-content/the-breakdown-when-the-celtic-board-met-the-fans/

 

I hate them..

 

I wish I didn't agree with you but at this point I really do hate them and what they have and are doing to OUR club.

 

RGC podcast with a breakdown of the meeting



https://open.spotify.com/episode/64...=organic&_branch_match_id=1504969789167271926

 

Reading this part nearly gave me an aneurism

 

It's pure greed James.

Boards made up of commercial and financial suits. Not a single sporting person on the board (before having decades at Celtic).
They've zero experience of how to run a football club, outwith Celtic and having board members at a business (let alone a football club) for more than 5 years is generally a disaster, but here we have 8 or more board members with zero background in sports at all, all learning from each other how to run a sports club.

That issue, means all they can teach each other is the financial side of it.

Which is the greed.

They've answered that question as a typical commercial greedy business man would - by pointing to other companies and saying "it's in line" or "look lowest in the UK" forgetting how stupidly expensive even the English game is compared to the rest of Europe, let alone ourselves.
Completely missing the point of the question "why do you have surplus cash, yet take MORE from the fans?"
"UEFA, lowest in UK"

Scummy * are totally out of touch.

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On reading the minutes put out by the club there it definitely comes across as Nicholson being little more of a messenger boy for the board and I think he is particularly working with his hands tied behind his back but if that's the case maybe he show some professional integrity and walk away from a job that he can't do to the best of his ability. I think this is what happened with Dom McKay, he came to Celtic expecting to have the authority and freedom to make key organisational and strategic decisions that a CEO generally would and found that he couldn't do anything without consent of the NEDs.

I saw a comment on Twitter this morning from 20 Minute Tims I think which was referencing the recent confirmation that over a certain treshhold the NEDs have to approve the bids. They pointed out to the lowball bids we've been carrying out all summer and that probably makes sense, the reason we are coming in with £1.5m for Breum was probably because that's all the remit Nicholson or McKay or Tisdale have to sanction bids. We are still operating in a 2010 era transfer market where we fail to realise that a £2m player then is probably £7-8m or more now.

The one thing that has spelled out is that the NEDs are the problem - doesn't matter who you bring in outside of Nicholson and McKay, they don't have authority to make decisions. Nicholson's main failing is he doesn't have the presence or charisma to step up to the fans and try and communicate.

Our NEDs are more or less the same for years, for me I am repeating myself but Lawwell is the issue, when he was CEO, he pulled off the appearance that he made all the decisions and that he had total control - I believe he did. I believe he is Desmond's right hand man and trusted lieutenant. He's been at the club over 20 years now and Desmond sees a solvent business with big cash reserves - I don't think Desmond gets involved much other than to woo a new signing or managerial appointment with a visit to his villa out in Spain or use of his private jet or a phone call. Desmond is a multi-billionaire, he rarely visits Glasgow, doesn't attend board meetings, lives out in Spain, plays golf all day, goes to the Ryder Cup, sues his private golf club, is at retirement age at this stage, has a huge range of business interests and property portfolios. I think it should be clear to all that Celtic is merely a business interest for him and he has delegated that business interest into the hands of his trusted lieutenant Lawwell.

As for the rest of the non executives, its more or less an echo chamber, a crowd of bored rich pensioners made feel very elevated by donning the club suit and attending a few meetings every year, none of the them will rock the boat with the Lawwell dictatorship.

Lawwell is, has and always will be the problem. He is the snake and his head needs to go.

 

Looks to me that the board are offering up MN and CMcK as the lambs to the slaughter, they’ll no doubt be ousted out as part of a ‘modernisation’ but * all will change while Desmond has full control. * literally don’t give a * about us.

 

Its clear they are running the club as a business and not a football club.

Id guess Desmond dictates that strategy and Lawell implements it. Ive always found it odd that Desmond would have what is essentially a controlling stake yet have so little interest in seeing Celtic broaden its horizons. He still talks about Celtic nearly going bust and it seems he derives his satisfaction in seeing Celtic exist as a financial secure, financial sound and financial stable club.

Nicholson and McKay standing over or European record as acceptable is clearly evidence that we are operating a low ceiling strategy where decision and procedures are made with respect to balance sheet and share price.

After whats comes out of this Summer I think the reason we sit on such excessive cash reserves is because it protects any volatility in share price and shareholder confidence.

Communication with the fans has been historically non existent because the board only see themselves as answerable to shareholders.

Nicholson and McKay are comfortable in their positions and with the clubs strategy because they are meeting the targets that they have been given. Bombing out of the Champions League while having no adverse impact on the clubs shareprice is probably a source of pride by those running the club as it shows how financially robust the club is.