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Mondays Meeting

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by truedub1916, Oct 3, 2025 at 7:42 PM.

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  1. Lupis Gold Member Gold Member

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    It's about the story that came out where supposedly Rodgers was working his ticket. It was meant to have been leaked by a board member, AKA Lawwell.
     
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  2. celtic20

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    Hahahaha "closed case" regarding the leak?

    * off. Knew that would be the case as soon as there was talk of an "internal investigation" regarding it.

    Internal investigation would've went something like this:

    MN: It was you right enough eh Peter?

    PL: Aye

    MN: Cool. Case closed. No telling anycunt.
     
  3. Foley1888

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    See the thing I don’t get in all this is they are finance driven people. Like all of the decision makers, Desmond, Lawwell, other non exec Board people.

    Since COVID we had played in CL 3 of the 4 seasons, our finances have been transformed.

    In terms of financial performance:

    1. Our cash at the bank has gone from £16.6m to £77.3m so we have retained £60.7m of profits as cash in the club.
    2. Taking our last season in the EL to last year our revenue grew from £88.2m to £143.6m so an increase of £55.4m or 63% increase. Yes expenses have increased from £91.7m to £117.1m so £25.4m, 28% increase so our income increased by more than twice the rate of our expenses.
    3. We have managed to sell players each year for record fees and had 3 of our top 5 sales during that period. Likely we could have done even better had we let Maeda go.
    4. The assets on the club balance sheet have gone from £178m to £262.6m so a £86.4m increase in balance sheet value in 4 years.
    5. Pre tax the club has generated £110.3m profit in 4 years, largely fuelled by CL revenues.
    6. Last season we had record performance in all three revenue pillars (or at least within £28k when it comes to merchandise sales).

    Yeah we could have arguably spent our money more wisely on signings, but by and large the club has been financially transformed by being in the champions league.

    So, why when presented with a two legged tie against Kairat Almaty or Slovan Bratislava, an open goal in European qualifying, why wouldn’t you spend £15m to capture at least £30m more in revenue? Especially knowing you could sell a Maeda and Yang to recoup £20m+ if it doesn’t go well or even in advance.

    Their decision making makes absolutely no sense. It is self defeating for their purpose.

    Even refusing to sell Maeda and Yang has literally probably cost the club about £12m in what we could expect to get for them in January.

    To come out and say that you have no regrets about how that summer window goes makes absolutely no sense.
     
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    My point along. It isn't about money its about incompetence. Maeda+ cl money is +70mill..if we had been anyway organized our business would have been done and we would have easily negotiated kairat, then let maeda go with his replacement already in the building. It's like some within the club are trying to tie Nicholson and Rodgers hands behind their back

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  5. Foley1888

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    I think where maybe not all about money there is an element of all this being about risk aversion and not wanting to speculate at all even when it makes sense to do so.

    On Nicholson, the more you hear the more you reach the conclusion he is in a token position. Other than title and salary he isn’t a CEO, he’s there so Lawwell could continue to basically be CEO, with Nicholson handling the administration. Someone who is massively out of his depth.

    Rodgers has his flaws and player recruitment is a massive one for him but a functioning football team would recognise that and have someone in to cover that flaw and get deals done. I actually think in terms of talent identification we have some capable people at the club, we have been linked with guys like:

    - Malik Thiaw
    - Michael Olise
    - Ardon Jashari
    - Archie Brown
    - Vini Souza
    - Alvyn Sanches
    - Gustav Isaksen

    Mostly guys who have then in a year or two that followed went on to have big seasons and some then went on to make really big moves. There will be plenty more we don’t hear about. But this inability to do a deal is killing us in the market to the extent we can’t even sell players when a good deal is on the table.
     
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    I agree with all your points. I don't buy the risk aversion part though. Nobody was demanding big Engels/idah type signings. People just wanted what was essential for the team to somewhat function, people wanted to be able to field a average team. Going into that playoff it was glaringly obvious we lacked creativity at right and left wing, especially if maeda was being used centrally.a touneki level player at right and left wing in for the kairat game and we are playing champions league football this season. Would have strengthened our hand in maeda negotiations too and made us a much more attractive option for incomings towards the last week or so of the window.. we all would have snapped your hand off for a nil all v kairat away from home, the problem was we should have been going over there with a 3/4 goal lead.

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  7. Foley1888

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    Similarly I agree with that above but the risk aversion part is the only way I can explain why we constantly do what we do in the market. Almost we don’t buy players in case someone better or we could get a better deal somewhere. It is mental.

    That line that we have had European Group stage football for 19 of 20 seasons is just mental. We are all but guaranteed it for now, to use that as an argument for success, when it really is the bare minimum is insane and shows how out of touch these people are. In the last 13 years we should have been looking to make CL at least 10 times instead of 7 as we have basically had no real challenger for the league apart from maybe in 3 of those seasons where Rangers went beyond their means again.

    It’s as if they accept bang average as being where we should be. The other problem is the incompetence of doing deals.
     
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    Also our messing of our own players around.. the model is the model and maeda should have been out the door in the summer just like two or three players should have been coming the other way

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  9. Foley1888

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    Totally agree, I don’t think we really have a model that we actively pursue. We should have actively been looking to sell Maeda in the summer his age, contract status, fact he told us he wanted a move, his value would have never been higher.

    We have let the squad go somewhat stale as we have too many players that have been here too long and by their sell by date. Hatate is another prime example there. Even Kenny, we had money on the table for him, we should have negotiated a deal to move him on as he’s never making it here and Yang is in this boat too.

    When we sold Kuhn that money should have been reinvested in 2 or 3 players right away. We could then have let Maeda and Yang go and brought another couple of players in.

    We went into the CL qualifiers playing a front 3 with two guys with a foot out the door and someone that is away. As you say imagine actually having a fresh and hungry new forward line for that tie.
     
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    Isn't Strelec the secong prospect weve lost who claimed negotiating was too hard as WE were using an agent?

    Who is this * "agent"?
     
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    If the measure of success was only about being a successful business, then the board are great. However we are first and foremost a football team and we fall down there. Winning domestically has been easy this century, taking the next step hasn't happened because of short sightedness. One step ahead of our glasgow rivals seems to be what satisfies our board and biggest shareholder, but not the fans. It has to change, soon.
     
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    He’s the buffer between BR and PL due to the frosty relationship in the past. The issue is, if they don’t have direct contact then they can’t make progress together with their relationship.
     
  13. Notorious Gold Member Gold Member

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    https://celtsarehere.com/inside-celtics-monday-meeting/

    Paul Thompson, who attended on behalf of the Collective, shared his account of the discussion in the Jock Stein Lounge at Celtic Park — the same meeting which has since produced two very different public statements from the club and the fans’ group.




    Fans are awaiting the minutes of the meeting being released, with both sides of the table taking their own minutes from the meeting.

    Thompson, appearing on his RGC Podcast, said:






    The meeting itself, very civil, very generally even tempered, I’d say. There wasn’t any raised voices at all, which was quite surprising, apart from a couple of guys had to raise their voices to speak over the noise that was coming from the air conditioning units in the bar at the Jockstein Lounge, but I wouldn’t say it was convivial.

    “It was quite formal, it was quite definitely clear that there was a degree of discomfort, and probably from our side as well as theirs, because there’s obviously been a lot of emotion in there the last few weeks, but it was, I guess, without going into the massive amount of detail on it, it was just a real disappointment.

    “We looked at it from the perspective that we wanted to to take each question that was posed in the open letter, and effectively that served as the agenda, those seven questions which everybody’s seen and read, and that the board had decided not to respond to, but to be fair to them, they did have responses to each of the questions last night, if you could call them responses, but they were very laboured, very slow to address any actual action.




    There was no real commitments, maybe one commitment towards the end which we could pick up on, and it was really a case of, yeah, we think we do everything okay, guys, what’s your problem exactly?

    “And it kind of was a recurring theme for the night was, you know, everything’s fine, and we’ve qualified for the group stages 19 times in the last 20 years, what are you worried about in Europe? You know, what’s the transfer policy?

    “One of my favourites, which will come in the minutes, I’m sure, but the question around the communication strategy was answered by, ‘we put a statement in the AGM every year, and we also had Paul Tisdale, he did a presentation for 40 minutes at the Fans Forum once’, so that’s the communication football strategy to the wider support, and it kind of went on like that.

    “It just felt like, I don’t want to get personal about it, because sometimes these processes need to be depersonalised, but the Chief Executive didn’t look like he was really particularly engaged or prepared for the meeting.

    “The Finance Director was definitely more engaged and definitely more articulate in terms of the answers we got, not particularly detailed, but definitely articulate, and I think the challenge for the guys around the table at our side, and it was a big round table, if you want to picture it, we were all sitting around the table together, but the challenge for us was actually got to the point we were trying to get them to understand that we were trying to help them, rather than being adversarial and confrontational in any way.

    “It was myself and one or two other guys going, ‘look, do you actually realise what you’re saying here? Do you realise the opportunity you’re missing here? Just give us something we can go back to people with and put their minds at rest that you’re actually in control of the situation’, and it was really difficult, it was like drawing blood of a stone, it was just constant references back to fans forums, the information that’s been provided before, stuff that we’re thinking of, stuff that we’re looking at, stuff that we could maybe communicate a bit better, if only we had a communications infrastructure we could use to do it guys, you know, it was that kind of thing, it was really, it was not becoming of conversations.”

    Thompson’s description adds to a growing sense that the meeting, intended to calm tensions between the club and support, has instead highlighted the gulf in understanding between both sides.

    His comments echo the tone of the Collective’s official statement, which accused the club of a lack of accountability and claimed “no tangible outcomes” were achieved.