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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

Discuss Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. NomDePlum

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    Balikwisha joined a few weeks ago. Surely to * people aren't claiming Rodgers isn't involved?

    I get the 2 Japanese lads as they've been labelled "club" signings and Rodgers has taken the huff on them.

    Think I'm just about done with people making excuses for Rodgers. If he doesn't want to manage the squad then he should just leave. The constant, he's not got a Rodgers brand on his back, so it's not Rodgers problem if * tiresome.

    Managers manage the squad not pick favourites is where I've landed. * knows why it would be any different.

    It would also be nice to see some decent football.
     
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  2. Champions67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    You can't honestly have sat through that transfer window and point the finger at Brendan not being happy with his squad after it? Who is happy with it? The squad is a disgrace. No manager would have came out of that window happy. Imagine Brendan wasn't here and able to phone Iheanacho to sign, who would we have ended up with playing as striker?
     
  3. NomDePlum

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    Its a tiresome argument, people constantly saying X, Y and Z aren't his signings and not his problem.

    Regardless of how bad the window was I still expect him to get the best from the full squad. These constant arguments that he doesn't need to because he personally didn't endorse a signing are just bollocks.

    He's the manager, manage to the best of his abilities and if he's excluding potential contributors because he's in the huff, he should go.

    Is that simple enough for you?
     
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  4. Champions67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    No its not simple enough and its a * attempt at a deflection from the actual issue here.

    The issue is, that getting the best out that squad might not be enough to do what's expected of a Celtic team. And thats the real issue.

    He wasn't backed, our scouting and recruitment setup is abysmal and its been this way for years. Changing manager solves absolutely nothing.

    Your approach to him walking just means the next manager faces the same issues and the quality of the squad drops again. Try opening your eyes to the big picture instead of through the eyes of a 10 year old that sees a team wearing Celtic kits and assumes is good enough to win every game. There is no excuse whatsoever to be in the strong financial situation we're in just now and have a squad that poor. Its unacceptable. I guess you think the thousands of protesting fans are part of the problem as well.
     
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  5. NomDePlum

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    That is your issue. Not mine. Stop projecting what you want others to think onto them.

    I've been clear in what my point is - make the best of the squad avaiable. If he's not doing that, and the majority of posters on here are saying he's deliberately not doing that, then that's on Rodgers and not acceptable to me. It's separate to other arguments, again not complicated.
     
  6. Champions67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    This isn't an issue I created you wet wipe it is literally THE issue that has our fanbase divided against the board. It can't possibly be seperate to other issues you're either blissfully ignorant or too dense to look at the overall picture. They are directly and irrefutably linked I don't give a toss what your narrative of an isolated cog in the wheel is. Its not simply his job to make use of a shower of inadequate players. As a manager his vision needs to be implemented by the club or theres no point in him being here. He wasn't backed in the summer and therefore can't do his job to the best of his abilities. Simple as that. Your straw clutching is embarrassing. If you think Brendan is deliberately losing Champions League qualifiers and drawing 2 games in the league you're delusional. He would have walked if it wasn't for his love of the club and he would have been fully entitled to do so. This a result of having his hands tied end of discussion. Attitudes like yourself that breed complacency.

    There is not a shred of evidence to suggest that Inamura deserves to be starting games ahead of Tierney or Sarrachi. Jury is out on Yamada. Neither him nor Kenny look like Celtic strikers to me. Brendan is not sabotaging the team by not selecting the two players you mentioned. Tounetki is also the one keeping Balikwisha out the team due to them playing in the same position. I'm sure the majority of posters on here like you mentioned would largely disagree with your selective bias.
     
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    There have been lots of signings Rodgers clearly had nothing to do with since he came back, especially the first summer. There have been enough of these that we shouldn't hold the default assumption that a signing is Rodgers' unless there's reason to think otherwise. Instead, we should approach each signing with an open mind about who was behind it and look at the evidence.

    When we do that, I find it quite difficult to imagine Rodgers pushing for someone as meh as Balikwisha. He doesn't strike me as a player who would excite Rodgers. At the moment, Balikwisha is playing, as did Palma that first season. I guess we'll find out when Jota is fit again and Rodgers actually has options whether that is because Rodgers rates him or because (as turned out to be the case with Palma) he has little choice right now. At the moment, all we know is that Rodgers rates him more than Yang.

    We certainly can't confidently blame Rodgers for him
     
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    As I originally said tiresome.
     
  9. NomDePlum

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    I'd accuse you of sitting on the fence too much on this one @Random Review, but you'd be undecided on that too.
     
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    At the end of the day Rodgers has been * over by the board that is not in question.
    People are entitled to voice their opinion if they think Rodgers isn't doing the best he can either. You can think both.
    Don't forget he said in an interview that this board bleed green and white or close to that. Absolutely no need to say that as they clearly * don't
    What I don't understand is why he can't switch it up a bit? Put 2 strikers on and mix it up a bit in the last 10 or 15. Changing players like for like (arguably bringing on worse players) and hoping for something to change just seems ridiculous from me.
     
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    This is the epitome of the Brendan Brendan Brendan hoax.

    The manager has shown his worth - one of the best managers in the history of the club. He has been let down and now having to scrape the barrel. He will need to extract every ounce of ability from the squad if we are to do anything.

    Braga is a season defining game in that regard. Let’s see but it doesn’t change anything.

    The Celtic establishment and board will continue to push this hoax that BR should be doing better as it diverts the spotlight.
     
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    I'm not disagreeing the underinvestment is a disgrace.

    He hasn't extracted every ounce and is my point. We should be better and playing better football.

    Saturday had some improvements for me despite the result. Hopefully that continues tonight.
     
  13. Champions67 Gold Member Gold Member

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    That's the reply I expected, called out, argument torn to shreds and have nothing else to add.