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Yang Hyun Jun

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Idioteque, Jul 14, 2023.

Discuss Yang Hyun Jun in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. jpr21

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    Absolutely. Penalties can skew the * out of a players goalscoring abilities.
     
  2. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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  3. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Not remotely weird. Some assists are unbelievable and well worthy of praise. Others are not worthy whatsoever of any praise because an assist is quite often a 5 yard pass about 25 yards from goal where the goalscorer has to do all the work. Arguably the least trustworthy stat in football.
    And nobody is saying we should sell Yang for a pittance. We should be selling him for whatever his market worth is. And it sure as * isn't £5m. I honestly can't believe some of the figures I'm reading here.

    He's a winger with 16 goals in 136 top flight matches across South Korea and Scotland.

    Not a single person on here would be happy with us spending £5m+ on a player with that record.
     
  4. celtic warrior

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    Same can be said about goals. Someone has to be there to do it. Doesn't matter how, matters that it got done.

    I'll remember all this dismissive talk about assist for the new season and reasons why assits seem so easy to brush off as if they don't mean anything.

    We had spent allegedly €5.1mill on Kuhn and all he had was 7 goals to his name.

    Not saying at all Yang is equal to him not after the comparable seasons they've both had, not by a long shot.

    But there is enough about Yang that if Celtic are any good, we should get for him, a surprisingly good fee.
     
  5. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Goals and assists aren’t really the same. A goal does, 9/10 times, require the scorer to be in the right place at the right time or produce a piece of quality. An assist can be a 5 yard sideways pass under zero pressure. They’re not comparable.

    Nobody is saying assists are a pointless stat. But you need to apply context. Yang hasn’t stood out as someone particularly creative. Not a player who puts in great crosses consistently or threaded passes. He’s not regularly creating chances for our forwards.

    We spent about £3m on Kuhn. He had a good season beforehand. Underlying numbers were phenomenal (they’ll be levels above Yang’s, for instance) and he had a footballing education at two fantastic academies. Plus loads of youth caps for Germany.

    Anyways, going round in circles. If we get £5m for Yang then Lawwell and Nicholson deserve statues at Celtic Park. In the real world, we’ll be lucky to get half.
     
  6. celtic warrior

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    Underlying numbers?

    Genuinely educating myself here what where they exactly? Because in the full season before joining us he score 4 goals and assisted 3.

    When he did sign for us, at Rapid he was for that season then sitting in 3 goals and 7 assists.

    Hardly seeing phenomenal in that.
     
  7. Celtic_Daft1888

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    Aye, I want the best deal we can get for him.

    I do think some teams would be suit him far better than we do and I don't think we should downplay his ability too much. That being said, I would genuinely be delighted with a profit on him. Like, we paid £2.5m for a player who had 1 goal and 1 assist in like 25 games, the season we signed him. If we had paid Inamura money for him, then aye. But we didn't. We paid quite a lot and we definitely overpaid for him.

    So, yeah. Anything between £2.5m and £3.5m would be a great deal for us and if we add that to the Tillio money we receive, which should be around £1m and the Palma fee we should receive, which should be about £2m, we could genuinely spend that on one player who would be far more effective in our team than all 3 put together.

    Talk of £5m and above is fantasy land. He's shown nothing to warrant that here, in my opinion.
     
  8. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Palma has 6 goals and 9 assists in 32 league appearances for us but we all are pretty unanimous in not wanting him kept nor are we asking for upwards of £5m.

    Stats can be deceiving.
     
  9. celtic warrior

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    Palma has 10 goals and 10 assists in 2208 minutes. 2 goals coming in the CL.

    £6mill.












    I said what I said
     
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    One of the comments was interesting … I forgot Yang still had to serve in the military is they don’t win the next tournament.


    If he’s out for a year and a half and he’s struggling to develop as is, it’s probably the best time to punt him in all honesty.
     
  11. ardis1967

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    Interesting how those in defense of Yang haven't tried to argue the points in bold. Mainly because they know they can't. We can't keep having guys like him around hoping he will come good cause he can do a step over. A Celtic winger needs to contribute a lot more than he does and that's just a fact. Plain and simple.
     
  12. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    How many dribbles he completed per game, the number of chances he created, his speed etc.

    If I remember correctly he was underperforming in terms of his finishing, but everything else pointed to an exciting young player who was ready to go up a level. And so it proved. There were clear strengths to his game.

    With Yang, I don't really see many strengths. Not very quick, not particularly creative, decent dribbler but often with no end product. Scored a few goals last season but wouldn't be confident in him in front of goal either.
     
  13. bhoy_wonder Gold Member Gold Member

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    Send everyone that's interested the Hearts highlights and say that's the only reel of him that survived the fire in the social media room.
     
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    Kuhn excelled in both his number of dribbles per game, his number of successful dribbles per game and his chance creation analysis was through the roof. The report mentioned that his replacement value was more than what they sold him for, indicating an excellent deal for Celtic and a bad deal for Rapid.
     
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  15. MagicBallBhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    Khun when he came was an established player we paid for and he was bought for the first team, Yang cost nothing and was a prospect

    I guess people are worried that we don't replace Khun and also bring in another for left wing instead relying on Yang i get that, he's not showed he's a starting winger for us
     
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    Yang cost over £2 million, he wasn’t a cheap buy. I think we’ll be lucky to recoup our investment in him. Any club taking him will probably look to loan him or sign for under £1 million.
     
  17. MagicBallBhoy Gold Member Gold Member

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    Uhh i read he was a free well that changes things a bit, get him tae * lol
     
  18. constant

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    You sure he cost that much ? I don't think so.

    Anyways, £3M would seem to be a fair price price given his improvement, potential, and decent Champions League performances.
     
  19. Martybhoy53

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    He’s not good enough and doesn’t have the mentality to be a Celtic player. PUNT.
     
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  20. Foley1888

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    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Belgian team was Genk after Oh has done pretty well for them.
     
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