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Adam Idah

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Callum McGregor, Jan 31, 2024.

Discuss Adam Idah in the Celtic Chat area at TalkCeltic.net.

  1. calmac23

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    I'm not his biggest fan but I think he had a decent season last year, depsite some poor stretches of form. I don't think he'll ever be good enough to be our first choice striker, but he's probably the best backup we could get and someone I would be happy to rely on getting 15-20 goals a season off the bench and starting here and there.

    I think he'll be with us for the long haul, which is okay.
     
  2. jpr21

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    Spot on. Especially with the "full pre season " stuff , it's become an absolute parody of a catchphrase at this point on here. Gonna need Merlin in as you say.
     
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  3. martin_d

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    You surely know that a phrase being cliched is not the same as it being untrue. In Idah’s case, it certainly is. Didn’t sign until 14th August, with the season very much underway.

    Doesn’t explain away everything with him, but some folk are delighted just to forget every bit of context or potential mitigation so they can hammer him.
     
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  4. themouth1888

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    Some of his performances last season were absolutely awful. Miles short of where a Celtic player should be.

    He may improve and if he does that's great but as it stands we need an improvement.
     
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  5. Wllm Gold Member Gold Member

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    Only Jota looked like he needed a pre-season. Idah and Bernardo had plenty of minutes over the course.
     
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  6. Celtic_Daft1888

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    Nicholas Kuhn popped into say hey.

    Every single one of us was wondering what we signed that January. Aye, he had a bad start with a dental injury that kept him out for a couple of weeks but he looked absolutely *. Idah came in halfway through August. If you don't think a full preseason helps players, you're not to be taken seriously.

    Should we have expected more from him as the season went on in terms of general play? Aye, we should. He still scored 20 goals, as a player primarily coming off the bench. There's a lot to work with there. I don't care what anyone says. * like yourself are just desperate to turn on him.
     
  7. Celtic_Daft1888

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    "Plenty of minutes" and pre-season are completely different. No one is saying he was unfit. But a pre-season, of 6-8 weeks of consistent training, tactics and working on things the manager wants you to are completely different. Look at what Rodgers was able to do with Kuhn last summer and O'Riley in the summer of 2023. Took their games to a new level.

    I expect he will be wanting the exact same with Engels and Idah, especially.
     
  8. The_Bhoy

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    Idah is gonna end up being our dessers by the way people go on about him in here. He scored 20 goals last year and at no point was ever number 1 striker :giggle1:
     
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  9. horseshoe

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    Dessers finished the leagues top scorer, almost 30 across all comps, the huns still know he's *. There's more to players than raw numbers, Idah's all round contribution in games has been lacking, and he really looks like he just can't be arsed half the time.
     
  10. jpr21

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    Oh so it was his pre season and not his full recovery from his dental pain that caused a huge upturn in Kuhns' form , contrary to what himself and Rodgers have said. Gotcha .
    I'm not desperate to turn on anyone , I've watched Idah for 18 months now. His form Nov-Jan was absolutely ridiculous . What was it 14 without a goal , started 5 of 6 home SPFL games on the trot and barely hit a shot on target. This period ended the "he needs a run of games " argument , which was swiftly replaced with "he needs a full pre season " and "Kyogo was also bad " defences. Maeda thankfully got put through the middle as a result. After he was hooked after another anonymous display in the cup final I didn't think folk would be clamouring to defend him this summer or suggesting he gets another shot as the main man yet here we are. As others have pointed out , the mental gymnastics to defend him on here is strong.
     
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  11. Sween

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    In the games I saw Dessers in, he was great at getting on the end of balls and sometimes even creating something from nothing. He did this despite service from midfield being terrible and almost noone else contributing goals. His conversion rate just wasn't good enough. Some games it was laughable but even then he was still in the rights spots to have chances. If he could improve that, he would be a very good player (a big 'if' I concede).

    Idah doesnt seem to get on the end of much. Rarely creates anything from nothing. Doesnt touch the ball enough to even miss the chances Dessers has. You might argue that because we have more goals in our midfield, Idah isnt a primary target in the way Dessers is. But equally the supply from the likes of Jota, Maeda, Hatate, McGregor, Engels, etc, should be levels ahead of the Rangers midfield.

    Not having a full summer to prepare is a pefectly valid reason to look sluggish in august or september. Feels a stretch to explain his lethargy 7 months later.
     
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  12. jpr21

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    This 20 goal striker thing is a 90s Premier League notion. A decent Celtic striker should be scoring far more in all competitions. If we actually scouted a prolific one , playing in our side with the amount of attacking we do and 75% possession , he would score an absolutely silly amount. Wave after wave of attack in 90% of our 45+ domestic games , if we got the right guy in his numbers would be off the charts . Griffiths (who was no world beater ) getting 42 one season was a glimpse into what a proper number 9 could achieve here. With the finances we have available , we are missing a trick .

    Go out and buy one , or commit to Maeda being a striker. Would be more than happy to see Maeda play up top us for 60 games next season and see what he can acheive.
     
  13. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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    Tbf that Griffiths season where he scored 40 was an anomaly.

    I think you're perhaps underestimating how difficult it is to find a striker capable of doing that somewhat consistently. Even in a team that dominates as much as us.

    The season he did that as well he was pretty much our only main goal source IIRC. Nowadays there's more of an emphasis on the wingers and the midfielders to chip in. E.g. maeda got 20+ from LW and Kuhn the same.

    As Rodgers said himself it's probably easier to find wingers capable of chipping in with 15 or so a season than getting a 30-40 goal a season striker who's consistent week in week out. That costs serious money or you get lucky with a young up and comer who hasn't shown that yet. It may be Osmand, who knows.

    We've dominated this league pretty much since we were formed as a club yet we've rarely had a striker who scores that many. Sutton or Hartson didn't. Larsson did but...that was Larsson.

    If we get a striker who scores 25 in 45 games of a season, better than 1 in 2, that's great going.
     
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  14. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    You're letting your dislike of Idah blinker you here. Delusional level of expectation.
     
  15. NomDePlum

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    Hopefully having the time of his life. It's off-season and footballers get a shorter break than ever.

    Drink like George Best, play like George Best :50:. The Adam Idah way.
     
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    Im not sure hes the best fit for how we play. Most of the emphasis on how we play is getting the ball out wide and using over/under laps to attack. I dont think we play looking to use the striker as a focal point.

    Idah seems to like to play with a lot of freedom and space to drift around. But you dont get much room in Scotland against teams sitting deep.

    Probably we could use a more instinctive finisher and penalty box type striker which I dont think is Idahs natural game.
     
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    Kilmarnock game end of season before last. That's the Adam Idah I want to see next season.
     
  18. King Kwon Gold Member Gold Member

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    Was that the game he played with Kyogo and they dovetailed beautifully? Wish we'd gotten to see more of that.

    Edit: Turns out I was thinking of the game against St Mirren in the cup. Still wish we'd seen them together more.
     
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    Was there too mate. Amazing game and Idah was immense. Idah is inconsistent but unlike Dessers and others doesn't just save scoring for non-,events.
     
  20. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    No sure he's doing either of those :56:

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