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Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Lewis Kerr, Jun 19, 2023.

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  1. LectersLuncheon

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    There are two persistent myths constantly being peddled by the Rodgerites on here that need to put to bed.

    1. Brendan Rodgers is an Elite manager:
    Hes not. Hes a good manager with a short shelf life.
    Elite managers dont get * schooled by Philippe Clemente, Jimmy Thelin, or a Sevco management team comprised of * PUNDITS. And they certainly dont struggle (one win out of four) against halfwit managers like Slippy G.
    Elite managers don't have one single instance of qualifying out of Champions League groups with three different clubs, two of them from the richest league on the planet, and needing a format change to so.
    Elite managers dont get sacked by two different epl sides, one for falling off a cliff without one player in Suarez, the other for taking a side into a relegation fight and wasting untold millions on pap.

    In fact, go take a look. His record against other "elite managers" as far back as his Swansea and Liverpool days is nearly as atrocious as his Champions League record.

    2. Brendan Rodgers is best we're gonna get:
    Absolute dribble. Eddie Howe, who we had in the building ready to go, has just taken Newcastle Utd to the CL groups. Likewise with Enzo Maresca, the Chelsea manager purportedly excited by the prospect of managing us, and deemed not good enough by posters on here. Rafa Benitez, a manager with a record that puts Rodgers' in stark contrast, publicly lamented the fact that no one at Celtic contacted or approached him. (Not that i would want him. )
    Oh, and our ex manager who Scottish pundits lambasted as a nobody, and again, more than a few posters on here criticed when he was appointed, just won a * European trophy with Spurs.

    Managers of a high standard tend to get what they ask for at clubs, and Desmond doesn't allow that past a certain degree.
    The notion we cant attract managers of a certain caliber is demonstrably false. We can, and we have. Our board just like to mitigate loss to the point of hamstringing the development of the club because Dermot Desmond can't take off his green tinted specs and adores fellow Irishmen like Lennon, Keane and Rodgers.

    So argue the points. Brendan Rodgers has been successful at Celtic.
    Some of us think given the resource and financial gap that domestic success is the bare minimum a Celtic manager should be achieving.
    Others believe it points to a clear and incontrovertible reason for him to remain as Celtic manager as long as possible.

    But put this elite manager pish and best we can get * to bed. It holds no water.

    Thats my rant over. I wont be discussing Rodgers future again as it * too many people off and leads to some very aggressive responses.

    Rodgers will undoubtedly be our manager next year so until the wheels come off im behind him and the team.

    Im just praying to * that he proves me spectacularly wrong next year, and bucks his career trend of churning out pish in his third season.
     
  2. T.Rogne25

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    Players were poor but that needed changed in terms of shape/style, anything. I actually thought Aberdeen would tire and start to switch off eventually but when we can see that isn't happening i don't understand the lack of flexibility.

    When we are firing in our style and shape we can trouble anyone but when we get found out it feels like we could play all day and not score.
     
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  3. hiphopaddict

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    I expected to come on here and have the usual 25 and under self entitled mob wanting Brendan out cause he lost a final.

    It's not been as bad as I predicted though. I think some people need go seriously reality check when it comes to complaining about our manager or our team.

    You cannot win everything. Other teams exist aswell. They are also trying to win the game. It's the way football works.

    Jock Stein's team that reached thd Eurooean Cup Final in 1970, many say this team should have been better than the Lions, lost 1-4 to Partick Thistle in the final......It happens.

    But it's pleasing that the usual crowd aren't out ripping into Brendan cause the 100% win everything record has stuttered. This is reality. And reality is * brilliant if this is all we have to moan about
     
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  4. hiphopaddict

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    Brendan Rodgers is an elite manager in this country.

    He is the best standard of manager we can attract.

    Eddie Howe turned us down remember. Didn't want the job but * us about also till he got a better offer.

    No rangers manager, whoever the unlucky * is....or any other manager of any other club in Scotland will compete with us over the course of a season if Rodgers is in charge.

    That is more than enough for me. I'm not expecting to win the champions league. Stay dominant in this country first and foremost is the priority. And that's what's happened....is happening...and will continue to happen....as long as Brendan remains at Paradise
     
  5. hiphopaddict

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    And also....

    If we're assessing managers of relatively recent times...i.e....this century....

    then Brendan has the best domestic record.

    Martin O'Neil, Strachan and Lennon did not match Brendan's record. You would actually have to go back as far as Jock Stein to find a Celtic manager that could be discussed on the same level as Rodgers in terms of domestic success.

    I do not see how fans can realistically expect us to bring in a manager that is going to be better than Rodgers. The record speaks for itself
     
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  6. Liam Scales

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    Howe knocked us back, Maresca we did talk to and either didn’t go for it or he didn’t. But we got Ange instead, who is better.


    Rafa? Naw. Just naw. He’s a dinosaur, * in the transfer market and doesn’t suit being the dominant team
     
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  7. hiphopaddict

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    And

    It's worse than absurd. It's insane.

    The same people....working off the same thought process...will be wanting us to get rid of Maeda for missing that chance in the 2nd half.
    * the tremendous season he's had. * the fact that he is the best striker in the country.
    That Maeda needs to go....We could sign somebody better.....Let's see if Mbappe answers the phone.

    It's mental.

    How much success does Rodgers need to achieve before this * stops???

    It's a blessing that Celtic forums didn't exist in 1975 or same folk would've wanted rid of Jock Stein that year for not winning the league.

    It comes across like it's a crowd of young team that can't remember before Martin O'Neil.
    Sounds like Celtic da' mentality but try going in the 90s through the Liam Brady and Lou Macari days....then tell me Rodgers is not doing as well as he could and needs to go.
     
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    I never adored Rodgers. But yesterday's game was about two mistakes. Aberdeen didn't pull off a tactical masterclass, but they were tenacious, unlike last time. He sent in the best players he had on the bench, and had to do a forced sub, too. Could he have motivated the players better? Probably.
     
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    His record at Hampden was great but on the slide now with more games going to extra time/pens when we've been in winning positions.

    His derby record is on the slide.

    The football is on the slide. Predictable, lackluster, 2 years in and 50m spent and we still have scales first choice and finish a treble chasing season with Yang and Kenny up top.

    If he faced a settled Rangers team at any point we would probably have lost more trophies. As soon as any team gets their act together Vs us we just look weak and easy all over the park. The team selection yesterday meant that any subs could only make us weaker during the game.
     
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    Brendan more than deserves to be in charge next season. I really think he can give us an even better run in Europe next season getting all our hearts pumping to the extreme. He will also guide us to the league which as he knows as much as any one is our Bread and Butter. And if you want Steak as well that is received by a good run in Europe and he knows that as much as anyone.
     
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    Having just watched the poor display by us to win a treble I watched the highlights of the championship playoffs between Sunderland and Sheffield United what hit me right away was the passion and pace and effort to win a huge football game. Both teams gave it everything compared to the let’s walk to the treble attempt by us at Hampden. It really was a turn up and it will be easy attitude from our players as the game went on nothing changed there was no fight or aggression just a poor attitude of don’t worry I’ll be at the beach next week. I hope they have all had a look at themselves this morning in the mirror.
     
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  12. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    Ah, here comes the “remember the 90s!” crowd. Nobody * cares any more. Move on from it. It was 30 years ago.

    The current climate is nothing like the 90s.

    We are, by a considerable distance, the richest club in the country. Winning 4 out of 6 trophies simply has to be the bare minimum. Can guarantee that had we only won the league these last two seasons, even the “nothing to see here” lot would even be up in arms.

    This isn’t just about yesterday. This season there’s been a trend in a number of big domestic matches - mostly against the huns and now this final. It looks like the players aren’t even motivated in the games. We’ve not just been below par, we’ve been * dreadful. The pumping at Ibrox, the defeat against the huns at Celtic Park, even the cup final against them, and the Aberdeen game. How can people watch those 4 huge matches in the space of 6 months and not even get remotely concerned about it?

    10 goals conceded in 4 games against dross. Two penalty shootouts in a stadium Rodgers previously was untouchable in. Zero wins in 90 minutes. 3 defeats in those 4 games.

    Just actually noticing it now. We haven’t strung more than 3 wins together in 2025. Rotten.
     
  13. Twisty . Gold Member

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    Sometimes you can see things happen before they do. Remember folk getting it tight for wanting Neil Lennon sacked in November, or thereabouts, in the covid season.

    The biggest concern is his transfer record and the rebuild job we might need. If Maeda, Hatate and CCV leave, do you really trust a guy that gave us Engels, Trusty and Idah for £30m to adequately replace them ?

    That's my biggest concern with him. Well that and his tactical inflexibility.
     
  14. hiphopaddict

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    The manager and players have YET AGAIN been awesome this season.

    Another tremendous season of dominance and superiority.

    We did not play as well as we have done yesterday. But our haul of trophies is bordering on ridiculous in this country and the players and manager should not face criticism for standards dropping below 100% in one game, in one domestic competition.

    I hope Brendan stays for many years to come. His domination of the Scottish game was coupled this season by a highly commendable European campaign where we were narrowly beaten by one of Europe's top clubs in the latter stages of the Champions League. Thank you Brendan for another wonderful season and I personally look forward to many more to come.

    Brendan Rodgers Celtic Legend.....statue please Peter and Dermot
     
  15. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    He often is, idah, when he starts a game.
    He doesn't lead the like well at all, forces Maeda out left and is wasted there.
    Our entire attack becomes almost invisible when we do this.

    Better to start with Maeda up front then when opponents are tiring, switch him left to run inside and Idah fresher to make an impact.
    Don't think I've seen a single game where we start Idah and Maeda left (since Kyogo was sold), that was a comfortable or exciting game to watch.

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  16. Officer Doofy Come to me, human man Gold Member

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    It’s not just one game though, is it? That’s the point.

    I doubt many people would be as critical if yesterday was a total one off. It wasn’t. It was another example of us performing below 50%, never mind 100%, in a big domestic match this season.

    Can’t tell if your post is genuine or you’re deliberately being over the top in a sarcastic way. Hope to christ it’s the latter.
     
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    My two concerns with Rodgers.

    1. He has many more misses than hits when it comes to his eye for a player.

    2. His teams end up playing turgid, lethargic * after about 18 months.
     
  18. Peej Gold Member Gold Member

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    Reading some of the latest posts in here, think a lot are fair, but also a bit reactionary and in the moment.

    The vast majority of fans was singing his praises first half of the season, about how he's adapted his game since his first stint.
    That he recognises the limitations of Taylor and adapted to the inverted full back.
    Praised his development of players as well.

    Then think a few are forgetting guys like Engels are young and developing still. Praised them first half of the season as well, we all knew and could see a dip coming, but for some reason we use it to bash Rodgers with.
    Young footballers at our level can't keep up those levels for such a demanding season at this age. If they could, we wouldn't have them.

    Rodgers has a fair amount of issues to sort, many brought on himself.
    But the reaction to now wanting him sacked is baffling and what OTT

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    I really don't know what needs to be done to put a smile on the face of supporters such as yourself.
    If Brendan did win the Champions League yous would want him sacked for not winning it every year.

    What is it exactly? And how much success will it take for people to stop moaning?

    And if we've to shut up about the 90s cause it's in the past...then so was Lisbon 67....better shut up about that too....and no talk of McNeil, Jinky, Dalglish, McGrain, McStay or Larsson....all in the past....shut up about it....

    It's called making a 'comparison'...and it can only be done with the past...that's the only standard by which we can compare...
     
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    To be fair I don’t want him to leave but it hasn’t just been ‘one game’ our standards have been below 100%.
     
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