Brendan Rodgers Discussion Thread

Rodgers has added Idah, Engels and Trusty to that group and hasn’t got the best out of any of the three.
Despite the money that’s been spent, haven’t really added quality to Anges side.

 

I don't think people are giving enough thought as to how hard the team have worked this year. Putting that much into the CL, mentally and physically, to try and make progress took a LOT out of us.

That alone is hard enough, but to then have no winter break and have to play that many games just compounds it massively.

Not a popular idea amongst the Armchair Ancelotti's but it's more than legitimate. Think Rodgers has stuff to work on but we've definitely struggled in part due to simply just burning out.

 

To be fair to Rodgers, I think the team that played today just didn't have very good players in a creative sense.

Jota and Hatate were injured and Forrest was injured not long after coming on (no coincidence that our best period was when he was on IMO). Maeda and McGregor are both fantastic players; but they're not really creative in a Jota or a Rogic kind of sense. Bernardo is a utility player, so it's pointless looking to him for creative spark and so far Engels (and to a lesser extent) Yang have potential but have mostly disappointed. Kühn hasn't shown much creativity for 5 or 6 months.

So given the players available and the system Aberdeen were playing, who did we have today capable of providing that creativity to open them up?

 

Thats doesn’t mean that Rodgers should be exempt from criticism.
Rodgers needs to get more from the players and he needs to get them playing quicker. We are too slow back to front and we constantly allow teams to get their defence set. This is an issue that’s arisen a few times so he should be rectifying it.

 

Not getting the knives out for him yet, however it's clear he needs a refresh in style and set up. The last wee while has been quite stale. He has big summer ahead of, which needs to be spot on. Failure to qualify for CL will quickly see the tide turn....

He needs a holiday to refresh, then back to hit the ground running!

 

I didn’t say he’s exempt from criticism the point made is the level of disrespect is absurd in that people are calling for him to be sacked. As I said, perspective.

 

Wouldn’t say he should be sacked but there has to be a level of perspective from both sides.
The performance vs St mirren was abject and devoid of a real intensity, much like we seen today.
How has Rodgers allowed this to happen twice in a row?
We have a vastly superior squad than Aberdeen. We created very little clear cut chances. It’s either his coaching or his motivation. Who holds the players accountable and gives them a bollocking? How has players like Kuhn gotten away with being so poor for so long?

 

I agree with that, but that issue also stems from Rodgers two flagship signings in Idah and Engels not being good enough (and Trusty not even starting). Those alone are c25m of spending against an Aberdeen team that is worth a fraction of that combined. Kuhns been useless for months but he gets the nod over Forest. And its also on the club for not replacing Kyogo when they knew well in advance he would be leaving.

I still love Rodgers and no team should expect to win everything all the time, but today highlighted how much deadwood we are reliant upon in big games and also the extent to which our biggest signings have been pretty big let downs. The only positive is that it highlights this rather than a treble papering over the cracks.

I think we need a pretty big rebuild this summer.

 

Ange's players have been our best players in Rodgers' time here. Maeda, CCV, MOR, Hatate, AJ etc.

I'd say the issue is Rodgers' players. £26m on Idah, Engels and Trusty. First two hooked after doing * all and the third left on the bench.

 

I know it's something we don't think too much about, given that it's usually quite rare that a team goes into a penalty shoot out, but that's been 3 or so in the last year.

I do think our standard of penalty these days is absolutely * poor. Fair enough we made quite a few subs and a few of our better attacking players were on the bench. But it does concern me how poor we are from 12 yards.

Take nothing away from Aberdeen, they clearly worked on their penalties. Every single penalty was a * belter.

I'd just like to see us address this moving forward.

That and shooting more from outside the box, we all know we have the players. Too many times we overplay it. I'd like to see us pull the trigger more at and around the edge of the box.

 

Seriously though this season has had its fair share of warning shots for me.

Won 5 away games since December
Beat on penalties by a team who have won 5 out last 27 league games and played for pens from the first minute.
Beat huns once in 90 mins out 5 times.
Ended up on a negative goal difference against the huns in the league matches
Scraped past them on penalties
Spunked £60m in 4 windows on absolute dross!

I would not trust him this summer with any sort of money.

He has to be thanked for what he done and sent on his way as this is only going one way and thats down.

Get him out whilst we can try and kick on and give ourselves a chance next season cause there is not a hope in * the huns will be as poor as they have been!

 

Trusty is looking more like a * up in my eyes.

Personally, I feel that what I've saw of Nawrocki, I prefer him over Trusty. I'd add Scales in there as well.

Don't know * is going on with Nawrocki, I think him and Carter Vickers are our best CBs, I find it odd that a £6 million finds himself out of favour to a £500k squad player. We don't seem to have a good eye for a CB.

Lagerbielke as well, I know not all of these guys were Brendan's signings but still.

 

I mean this in the nicest possible way, but give the doomsday pish a rest.

You were convinced we were all getting nuked in WW3 a few months ago.

 

Leave him alone he’s just upset he’s been banned from Benidorm

 

Rodgers treats Scales like some sort of pet project with his comments about Scales being the biggest surprise of his managerial career. Trusty was hooked at HT in the league cup final which felt harsh even at the time and hasn't had much of a look in ever since and Scales hasn't exactly covered himself in glory in the time since. Nawrocki came in and looked absolutely fine yet for whatever reason just clearly isn't fancied

 

It is all a bit odd.

I think Scales has done a good job for us, he's stepped in when needed and he has done what needed done, good signing for £500k.

But let's be honest, he shouldn't be * starting for us. I'd have another starting CB, then a back up CB, then Scales.

If we're wanting to be taken seriously in Europe, we can't be going in with Liam Scales as our main man beside Carter Vickers.

See, I'd quite like Brendan to address the Nawrocki situation. I'll admit, I don't watch all of the conferences and pre-match interviews, but I don't think he's came out and said why Nawrocki appears against the huns, gives a 7 out of 10 and then * off again not to be seen.

 

I think what I mean is we need a bit of a refresh. Tremendous season, all the same.

 

Don’t care what anyone says his subs invited that result



Mcowan was a total waste of money all I seen was him giving ball away farcical


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They copied what the Huns have done to stop us. What Club Brugge done.

Not once have we been tactically astute to do anything about it. And Rodgers has acknowledged it that it stops us playing.

BR is so good, so close to being world class but the things that hold him back from that is ego. And it’s so frustrating

 

Btw also the nawrocki bullshit just so he can say am manager I pick the team … naw mate you pick the team that wins you the game and that is what everyone else sees that the polish centre back is better than the Irish boy who’s horrific bomb scare at the back and no amount of merit is gonna change that and if he doesn’t see that then the board better make a decision cause it literally costing us money and like today now costing us cups


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