Footballing Structure - Updates?

I think we have been extremely lucky/skillful in finding two genuinely top tier managers in Rodgers and Ange who have both been good enough and strong enough to grab the club and mould all aspects of it. Their ability and willingness to get involved in a broader remit than most coaches would do has really let us off the hook when it's come to structure. And their knowledge of available players that they could reach out to has papered over some awful signings led by our scouting department in between their reigns.

It's ultimately a blessing but it's also allowed key questions around roles and responsibilities to go unanswered. The board deserve credit for attracting both these guys in the first place, but the obvious risk is that once they leave, without a proper structure and governance in place, they will leave a crater for someone to try and fill. We won't keep getting away with it. I wish we would modernise but as long as we are dominant in Scotland the board have shown again and again that they aren't willing to do so.

 

I would understand us keeping an old-school approach to running the club if we also took an old-school view on the role of the manager. But by and large, we don't.

We don't let managers bring in their own teams, make significant changes to backstage roles, nor it seems play the dominant role in identifying and signing players. We tend to treat them more like a head coach, but you'd expect to see us have a clearer structure in place backstage that being the case.

I think the reality of it, as we've all in here discussed previously, is that in Desmond and friends we have a effectively a new version of the Kennedys. The backroom is Desmond's mates, their children, and old friends of the club. We laugh at the Huns for hiring Mount Staunchmore but we offer plenty jobs for the bhoys. And once they're in, they never seem to leave.

I personally don't think this will ever change while Desmond is in place. Any poor runs of form in whatever regard is responded to with a loosening of the purse strings rather than reforming how the club is run. I think Desmond likes having final say and prefers having people he knows and trust to run the club on his behalf. I don't foresee that changing outside of a similar set of circumstances to those that that forced the Kellys to move on.

 

I don't expect much transparency from the club over how we go about our transfer business but it seems obvious that we * about too much when trying to bring players in. That needs sorting.

 

It's a double-edged sword.

Real change needs a driver for change, usually a terrible season.

If it didn't stick after the Lennon debacle then it's hard to see now. We got lucky with the Ange appointment and his understanding of a cheap, relatively untapped market.

I really fear for us post-Rodgers.

 

Getting really nervous about our structure with all these rumours about teams wanting our key players.

I actually have total faith in our board to replace any one of CCV, Kühn, Maeda, Hatate or AJ with quality (albeit younger, less experienced quality, due to our obvious constraints). I even think they might possibly manage any two of them.

But there's no way we can do that for 3 or 4 (let alone all 5) of them with our current structure. We've all seen that we don't have the bandwidth. It's shaping up to be a painful summer if we haven't got our structure sorted by then.

 

We will keep most of them this year next year.may be different though

 

Nowadays, mate, that's more up to the player and his agent than the club.

 

Hatate is a cert to go and as much as i defend him; i think he can be replaced with someone better if we are clever. I’d like a real game changer creator type but i think Rodgers prefers physicality and someone that sticks to the system in midfield.

Just feel like Rogic was never replaced in terms of style.

Also think Kuhn will go.

The rest you just get the feel they are happy and settled. Maeda imo will never have the value reflected of how much he is actually worth to us. I’d rather he left for free than him leave for 15m

 

I share this feeling just now I think there will be at least 2 that go this summer. We won’t let all of them go obviously but will need to manage the situation carefully.

What I hope is that we actually treat it like a real opportunity to kick on though. There are a few players out there we have been linked with that look exciting like Kvistgaarden, Sanches and we have KT coming back. If we can keep Schlupp to add to KT, then we are probably need another 4 to cover the loss of the two above and improve overall.

 

It's Tisdale, it was reported he was consulting during last summer window yeah, then officially appointed as head of football operations around october/november.

 

It struck me as odd when Rodgers was asked about his future after winning the league he spoke several times about his desire to chat to Dermot and discuss plans for the club, etc. He never seems to mention Michael Nicolson to the point that is almost feels deliberate. Never seems to mention Tisdale either when it comes to scouting or talent development which are both key things that Tisdale owns.

Our overall structure and governance still feels very out of date and not very fit for purpose.

 

we've invested in these dudes and they've invested in us, I can see money being a major decision maker for a player/agent and realistically I would half expect our best players to leave,..but only HALF expect,Because on the other hand we have the type of foundation and infrastructure that could keep a certain player here, someone who wouldn't take it for granted.
It might help that recently there have been examples like Kyogo and Jota which indicates or sets an example that the grass isn't greener elsewhere. I know i'm being a bit naeive but I all we can do is hope.

 

This will be a real test, because I'm expecting a lot of turnover this summer. I fully expect Maeda, Schlupp and Hatate to leave and I think CCV, Taylor, Nawrocki and Kuhn are all 50/50 or more to leave and Trusty and Yang might possibly go too. That's a lot of work to do right there, before we even begin to think about improving.

If we are to have any chance of matching Rodgers' ambitions in Europe, we need to be looking at 5 or 6 quality signings plus 2 or 3 squad players. Not at all sure we have the bandwidth to handle that to be totally honest.

 

The issue is being able to operate at pace and be flexible. This summer will be the biggest overhaul since Ange came in in his first season.

We likely have 3/4 first teamers leaving. CCV, Kuhn, Hatate and maybe Maeda if the price is right. Let’s not kid ourselves that CCV won’t leave if the right offer/club comes in he’s gone.

Thats 4 players to replace along with cover for Jota before you even think of improving the team with another 2/3 quality players. Our football operation does not work at speed. We are incapable of handling multiple deals simultaneously because we have a power struggle every season.

We have a CEO who should have ultimate authority to make operational decisions but instead our largest individual shareholder wields too much influence on our transfer dealings. Desmond should have zero input at all in setting budgets or approving player transfers.

The authority should lie with the CEO/CFO and whoever is head of football operations. Nicholson just seems like a puppet now and we have had no interview with Tisdale since he joined, no update on structure.

I really fear that if we sell the 4 mentioned above that our ability to replace them quickly will cause us to crash out of CL qualifying. We cannot be in a position we still need to replace key players in August, we need to have done the majority of our business by the time the league starts. End of July would be ideal with finishing touches in August.

 

Apparently there was going to be a full review of the previous window (or 2) given the shambles it turned into at the end and how slow and clumsy we were securing (or not) new players, selling key players very late etc.
At least that's what Brendan said at time.

Would love to know how that went, but very unlikely that they will open the curtain to joe public.
Let's see if things are better this time, huge summer ahead.

 

I want to enjoy Sat.. before worrying about our transfer and structure..

 

That never actually happened, we are kidding ourselves if we think they done a review or made any real changes.

That was just another line to give the fans something to keep us quiet.
The club does it often when the heat gets too much.

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