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Celtic Transfers 2024

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Callum McGregor, Oct 30, 2023.

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  1. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    As fans we need to be more discerning and critical of signings. Too often we are accepting gems and projects that we know nothing about, and the club not much more, as being good enough for us. Just look the last few windows. Bernabei, Lagerbelke, Kwon, Tilio, Kobayashi, Yang, Oh. Even Kuhn is a punt. And now Idah. It's not good enough. I can't even count the £ms thrown at the wall there.

    We need to get rid of the so called wage structure, bring through our own gems and buy less players but more quality. The board are playing Moneyball with the club, and losing £ms and credibility. We have a lot of credit it in the bank, but it should be more and it should also be on the park.
     
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  3. Mr Shelby Moderator Moderator Gold Member

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  4. Sgt Neppers*

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    Who's buying us?? It's a credible thought to a degree, but Pat Mustard has already rubbished this many a time.
     
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    It’s clear to most that our “ scouting network” is basically just agents we’ve used before offering us folk …


    The fact we went and signed Lager off the back of Starfelts agent saying aye he’s good without a due process tells you everything you need to know … Mjallby had the feckin wisdom to say he should be nowhere near our first team but yet here we are trying to punt him after 6 months.


    Rodgers isn’t blameless either, but he’ll 100 percent be off in the summer.
     
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    That I don't know. But the tying up of assets in long-term contracts and pumping up the balance sheet were identified by others on here as something that would be done before a company gets sold. I then realized Rodgers was likely brought in to get the title on minimum spending ahead of a sale of shares- it all made sense.
     
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    We’re not even failing in just first team signings, why are we not snapping up the best talent within Scotland? Or at the very least why are we never linked with these guys- the Queen’s Park keeper for example that’s just went to Bournemouth
     
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    Albion Rovers striker just went to Burnley also.

    Sadly they'll pay more and Burnley are a more attractive option and probably even represent a better pathway to first team football or at the least a decent career in England.
     
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    Too much snobbery at our club about players from other Scottish clubs. Doig, Hickey, Ferguson in recent times. Many more before. I recall these players mentioned and fans would jump down your throat saying they werent good enough.

    The club also doesn't feel there is a decent sell on for Scottish players and would rather spaff £ms on unknown and hardly tested gems. Doig better than Bernabei? Ferguson better than Holm/ Iwata etc, Hickey?? Our disdain for Scottish players is remarkable, even the ones at our own club often get a hard time.

    Needs a different shift in mindset and to look at the talent pool closer to home before gambling that a player from half way round the world has the skillset and mentally to settle here.
     
  10. StevieBhoooy!

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    The only thing that would hurt the plc enough to possibly initiate change is a massive drop in revenue..

    The ONLY way to do that is to NOT buy season tickets.. and I don’t mean threaten to Not buy… or hold off buying / renewing until the last moment. I mean NOT BUY.

    There are far too many core supporters who turn a blind eye to the negligence and mismanagement of the club… they will renew without question and the few who refuse will have their seats happily taken by those on the waiting list.

    The plc know this - they are insulated from anything that can do them genuine damage.

    For me … the overarching thing that their inaction betrays.. is that they value the mythical OF brand more than Celtic FC itself.
     
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    Aye sadly this is the only option to try and force change.
     
  12. Callum McGregor The Captain Gold Member

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    Give up your ST and there are thousands waiting in line to snap it right up after you. That's the reality of it.
     
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    tbf, dont think many clubs would take the risk for Hatate after this season full of injuries.
     
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    We should try and test that with a publicized boycott.
     
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    I dont think high cash reserves means Desmond is selling his majority holding, if that's what you mean.

    If Desmond wants to sell his majority holding to a single buyer, the only value of having cash reserves over non cash assets is that it gives more freedom to the board post buyer to reshape the business. If we spend cash on assets, the value is still booked in the accounts, it just isn't liquid so less scope to make changes.

    Someone mentioned Celtic selling shares but they dont need cash to sell shares - they make money by selling new shares. They would only need higher cash if they wanted to buy back shares which there is no reason for at the moment.

    I fee like we are all scrambling around to try and make sense of something that maybe is just poor management rather than a grand plan.
     
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    We’ve became Dermots side project. Steady money maker for him.

    No ambition, no reinvestment.

    Would love to rip that tash off him.
     
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    I thought the share value would motivate DD to make sure our finances looked glowing? He could sell his stake higher.
     
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    But the share price doesn't reflect the difference between available cash, and non cash assets. The market will have a view of how Celtic chose to spend that money but nothing inherently good for a share price by not investing cash compared to investing cash.

    I'm theory, if we spend 10m on a player, the value of that player is still captured in the share price as cash would be. In reality, the share price more reflects sentiment around how the business is run and how likely we are to get the champions league money next season.
     
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  19. 10/4 Kemosabe Gold Member

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    Yep, we are trying to justify an incompetent footballing boards irrational running of our club. The bottom line is nepotism, cronyism and excessive control in the hands of a few people are a recipe for our downfall.

    They don't care about the football and are running us like a financial institution.
     
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    I mean in simple terms, the market will want to know that Celtic has enough cash to cover dividends if they choose to pay them, and they want assumed future revenue to come to fruition. So if the model is get into the champions league as cheaply as we possibly can then that's good from a market perspective if we succeed in doing that. But if the market no longer believes we will get that champions league cash because we are arent investing properly then the market won't like that.

    Obviously there are a hundred other variables but my point is simply that sensible investment of cash shouldnt hurt the share price.