Potentially More Barca Kids To Come

Have to say i totally agree with you. Strachan has definately not bought for any progress in the champions league and i suspect it will be used as an excuse should we fail to qualify. If we play anything like we did yesterday in the CL we will be destroyed!

£3.5m would buy us a CL class LB or CB. For whatever reason, they've pulled the plug of the Tamas and Basa deals. We have to trust their judgement on those ones. However if the deadline passes without a new signing, i fear for us!

 

Its a load of rubbish saying they have no cash, £3m bid for Tamas, £4m bid on Basa and £7m bid for Payluchenko. Also the huns spend £9m, are they saying that the huns who are up to there eyes in debt have more money to spend.

 

Think a lot of people are overestimating how much we can legitimately spend on a single player. £3.5m to £4.5m is the top end of what we can spend. I'm dubious if our board would stretch to the £6 mill.

Remember we have a wage structure that cannot be broken. I suspect the Tamas and Bassa deals fell through more to do with their wage demands more than anything else. They look at Celtic and see a top level Premiership side when in reality someone like Everton can off wages of £80k per week to their top bracket players. We can offer (I suspect) less than half that.

We didn't pull the plug on Tamas et al because we had the money and didnt want to spend it. Its because we COULDNT AFFORD too much wages for players seen to be not much better than say Darren O'Dea who must be on less than 10k a week.

 

If that's the case then i think that players like Darren O'Dea must be on more than they are worth. It sort of works both ways. I totally agree with what you are saying and reckon that's pretty much how they see it.

It's too hard to compare though. I'm sure Donati will be on good money but he's a pun' o' mince but Strachan seems to think he's good. Does that mean he won't buy anyone better than what he "thinks" donati is because the wages he's on!

It's a joke and i think we're totally being short changed. I was att he game yesterday and was pretty flat to be honest after looking forward to it all summer. The whole crowd were flat because we were so poor and there was nothing to lift us through the game. Now can you imagine if we'd signed Pavluchenko or a top class CB and how much different the crowd would have been?

There is the whole players wanting to choose the premiership over the SPL. However, the player we are signing needs to be wanted by a top team in that league. Not every player in Europe is wanted so i'm pretty sure they could get some good quality players for £3-£4 mil

 

I think we should wait til the end of the window before we start to panic, maybe im just optimistic but i think the best is yet to come we dont know whats happenin behind closed doors we will still be negotiating with players as we speak. I think we will get another 2 players before the window closes defo a LB and either a CB or an attacker. Feel free to shoot me down if there is no one else brought in before the end of the window but there is 3 weeks left and most of the activity always happens in the last week!!! Have faith bhoys!!!

 

I think the deal will work well for us. Lets face it he played 8 games for Lyon and they are not a bad side. If im right their fans wanted the club to get him permanently.

I also think that the work is continuing inside CP to get atleast 2 more players in. I think Strachan himself would be disappointed if we did not. But at the same time we can not over spend. We will spend the money if we can attract a good enough player otherwise why bother.

 

sound good wouldnt mind having barca younsters playing for celtic because barca has one of the best youth systems in the world. :icon_mrgreen:

 

i'll be polishing my rifle

 

Barca don't have first refusal on any of our players we are not a feeder club nothing has been singed and we are not officially reconised as a feeder club and we never will be, what the deal means is after two years the club that sold us the player will have an option to buy the player and only that player back for an agreed sum, if at anytime any other club makes an offer for the player Barca would be notified and it would be up to them to make an offer.

thats all that will happen this deal dose not affect any of our other player.
and t be honest i welcome this policy a player that might not make it at barca but is more than good enough for celtic could find he wants to stay anyway.

 

Both buy-back clause and procentage of next sale are very common in Spain, it has nothing to do with part ownership as in Italy or feeder relationship. In fact it would be really uncommon for big Spanish club as Real Madrid or Barcelona not to include both or at least one such clause when selling a young player.

The perception in Spain is that both clubs buy expensive and sell cheap, and that they're outsmarted in every negotiations (like they're so rich that don't know the difference betwen 1M or 10M), so those clauses are there to avoid both clubs to look like complete morons after every transfer.

There are ways though to outsmart Barcelona regarding the 25% of next sale, and it was done before. You can release the player to another club for 0 euros (or some small fictional amount) and receive the money "behind the scenes", or loan a player for a big compensation (which is not considered a sale and Barca doesn't get its 25%), or use a player in a swap deal (Barca won't demand 25% of the new player, no worry, we won't demand his left leg or right arm).

Regarding the buy back clause, Barca won't exercise this clause if Crosas would be good or just very good. He needs to be at least excellent. It's not just that he has to compete with our current set of midfielders, where Xavi and Iniesta were starters in Euro2008 Spain squad and Cesc a backup, but he'll have to compete with some future LatinAmerican midfielder we'll buy in a year or two, and with the talented youth midfielder which will start knocking on the door of the first team in a year or two (one of them -- Thiago is probably known outside Spain too).

 

This is all rather boring. I can't believe this is the only thread with substance considering we have not signed a defender this summer and there is clearly some cash to spend. There's only 3 weeks on the transfer window open as well.

FFS sign someone decent!

 

Have heard rumours, rumours remember.. that we'll grab a pacey striker from Barca before the window closes, possibly only a season long deal. I have no names and no source, but I did read it a few times around the normal * filled sites. going to give someone a call soon and see if I can get any inside info, here's hoping

 

don't panic man, 3 weeks is a long time. I agree we could use a bit extra for Europe but is anyone here even remotely worried about the domestics?

 

Very, very good post there mate!