Us, PSV Ajax and Anderlecht Uefa meeting last week.

Everyone outside the 5 should leave UEFA. Let them play each other all the time. It's already boring, it'll only get worse.

UEFA aren't the be all and end all of football.

Breakaway needed. Just as the darts done.

Same goes for every walk of life. Those without propping up those with.

 

Wit we really need to do is get that * uefa banner back out

 

Will they be able to sue us?

 

We won't boycott them then.

 

Money talks ,and that is the reason our clubs are showing concern here , it's the probability of missing out on 30mil that can see us even get close to a last 16 with the right manager ,any breakaway would have to be tested for sponsor interest and TV market ,it would have to be of benefit to the club's to opt out and money is the only way they will ,
I can see the collapse of sky support soon enough as many people are turning to streaming football online , this is getting better all the time ,the only thing stopping it taking over is broadband speeds , and buffering ,but they have to be feeling this just now , I'm sure they are trying to make this illegal ,the first signs that it's hurting .

 

Champions League is pretty uninteresting to me these days unless we're in it. I honestly had no idea it was even in last night, part of the effect of not having it on terrestrial television I assume.

Interesting to see what will happen to football in the next few years. Major changes are coming and I don't think they'll be for the good of the game, at least not for European football fans.

 

Hahaha

 

Surely this can only make less fans watch UEFA competitions...

Why would people from Glasgow, Moscow, Lisbon, Copenhagen and other places from cities in Europe with large populations and historic football teams in them switch their allegiances to randomly support teams from Dortmund or Turin or Madrid.

Doesn't make sense to me.

If this happens then an Atlantic league with regional leagues below it is a must for teams like us. Under a new body. Or at least an Atlantic cup.

 

I am not playing the devil's advocate here, I do think that UEFA are a bunch of greedy * who don't give a * about football and fans.

But in this particular situation it was those big clubs and leagues that made her hostage. They want to strangle all the football of the world and make it more like how basketball operates, with just one top worldwide league and the rest feeding on scraps. They are acting for a monopoly and want to destroy the competition. UEFA tried to calm them down and find some middle of the road solution.

But this is futile, and UEFA is just buying time. It's disgusting and if I were a supporter of these teams I wouldn't accept this. In truth they only care now about people in the middle east, China, USA that don't even know the offside rule. The local communities of Manchester, Catalonia or Rome that stood behind those teams for more than a century can * off as well.

These teams need to be boycotted. It's them, not UEFA who are behind this. It's quite easy to blame UEFA, pretty much as people blame the "politicians" as an already (justly) vilified class. The anger is all directed towards the usual recipient and these vile institutions, and the sheiks and oligarchs behind it, keep on destroying the best thing football has: the fact that every small community can relate to it.

I don't give a * when those teams play each other anymore. Not because I am doing some sort of rational boycott. It's just not interesting anymore. Always the same teams winning, all those teams that I don't give a * about, looking more like some celebrity reality show than proper sport. I hope there are more people like me but apparently there is an endless stream of gloryhunters from Asia that can't bother to watch their local team to take my place.

I don't know the solution but I don't want an European League. I don't want to see us doing to Aberdeen, Irish, norwegian clubs, etc what Real Madrid and Man Utd want to do to us. I might sound cynical coming from a brazilian living in Sweden that supports Celtic but football has to be local, every town needs to have their team and we can't fit all good football of the planet in a single league. I love ice hockey but can't watch the NHL because I have no connections to any of those teams, no matter how good they play. I don't want to see football turn into that.

 

Interesting...

The Huns will probably decide to join in and release a statement on it.

 

Think the day is coming when there will be a European league maybe 3 divisions and when the top clubs leave their domestic league to play in it and also their will be relegation in the league where the club falls back into their domestic league.

 

Uefa were pretty quick to give in to the rich clubs demands and already discussing further steps to give the money leagues even more power. Was there even a vote? Stuff like this should be discussed with all members of the Uefa and not only by the big suits at the top. * Uefa and * Fifa too while were at it. Ruining football for a long time now.

 

The thing is UEFA can't do much about it except for buy themselves time. Once the top clubs come with the 'Super League/Cup' threat UEFA pretty much has to give in.

 

Poor Uefa. They are the governing body of European football and should represent all European football clubs and leagues that are members of it. Barca, Real Man Utd etc. should not dictate the rules no matter how big these clubs are. It's quite embarrassing really.

 

When I was in Sweden I met more Swedish liverpool fans than fans of any Swedish club.

I was working with a Swede pn a job and he mentioned Brendan Rodgers. I thought 'oooh a Tim'. But it was only because I had a Celtic hoodie on that he brought him up. He was a liverpool fan and had been for years. I asked which Swedish club he supported and he said none. He went on to say that's how it is these days. Lots of Swedes don't bother with Swedish football. They tend to support English clubs or Zlatan. He spoke aboit the sports media there too and how they are utterly obsessed with Zlatan. No mention of any other foreign based Swede, no mention that Lustig and Celtic were about to break a record. Nothing. Only Zlatan and English football.

It's the same in Ireland and seems to be getting that way in Scotland too. Barca tops outselling Celtic or muck tops. Facebook football groups I was on and they'd all rather talk about the EPL.

Our sport is doomed, I fear.

 

Do you find that more Swedes support an English side or Zlatan more than a Swedish club?

 

Expanding the CHAMPIONS League is a good compromise but it devalues the competition.

All Champions should be in the group stages - by all means expand the groups to include
more teams but not at the expense of teams winning their own domestic leagues.

The Europa League was meant to be for teams who didn't win their league and maybe they
could fund it better..

Simple solution is more teams and revert to 2 leg knockout, but the 4 leagues with the
most money want even more of the pie...

Hey, they could allow these leagues more teams but freeze the prize money and tell them to
share it amongst them.. that would soon have them in a domestic civil war. They want more
cash and Uefa are bending over backwards to give it to them.

 

I live in Sweden and can confirm this. I follow the local teams far more than the average swede. In Denmark things seem to be a little better though

 

Expand the competition and make it straight knockout all the way to the final, 2-legs. Bring back an element of fear that big boys can be knocked out early. The group seeding system is boring, especially now with the top leagues having the top seed.

It results in the same teams qualifying for the last 16. I would remove the rule that teams from the same country can't draw each other in the group stages or last 16.

 

Im the exact same. I forget it is on until I see the results in the news the next day. The competition is dull. It is effectively rigged to ensure the same 10 or so teams end up in the last 16 each so unless celtic are involved I never think about tuning in until later rounds anyway. But these are now pretty dull as well because its the same teams year in year out.

Sadly, we are not the market that counts for UEFA and more people globally would rather watch arsenal get pumped off bayern again than watch some new faces from smaller nations.