The Ronny Deila Thread

Can make a thousand stories by looking at a picture ye know, Collins could of been telling a story. Who knows. Who cares, you seem obsessed.

 

Brrony's a blow hard anyway

 

ronny is a nice guy but out of his depth so people say but if the board and the players backed him it would be better.

but you cannot defend that performance against dundee no matter who was the manager absolutely no passion no workrate they dont care.

if joe bloggs was new manager they would be like chelsea when the special one left and the players would be playing.

ronny knows they arent playing for him but to shaft the fans because they dont like his methods and wont play is a betrayal to all those fans working all week to come watch that is unforgivable.

if i got a contract for celtic and never ever got a game you would be trying hard to wipe that smile off my face the day they put me 6 foot under

we can take a defeat as long as we give 100 percent against dundee we werent even close to them and thats what hurts HH

 

I've said before on this forum that John Collins doesn't have the dressing room and was ridiculed for it . The facts are he doesn't and some of the players don't like him . Ronny on the other hand is out his depth with or without Collins . A clear out is required

 

It would be nice to believe it was all down to JC and if he left everything would be rosy in the garden. Starting from season 2016/17 we give RD another 2 years to get it right. remember we will be on for the domestic double and with a better manager than NL there is no reason we can't better his last 16 in the CL:smiley-laughing002:

 

Why I said "An image can speak 1,000 words" mate..

 

True but I think we both know what your implying. Don't get me wrong, I'd love Ronny to turn it round but regardless where the problem is, it's too late.

 

I hear ya, games like Dundee have not came as bad as that lately. We have had a bad 10/12 weeks and at Celtic that is not allowed and I am glad the fans demand more from manager/staff/players. But look back to Sunday, like someone else said. 20/10 Minutes to go, Gordon catches the ball and nobody is running into space to gather, Gordon kept thumping it up to nobody and it just came back, Dundee should have scored. Whoever refused to run into space for Gordon, in this 1 issue, should not play next game. The 11 Ronny starts in the next game will tell a story for sure. He is angry, unhappy, he says he learns, I think he is learning, what manager stops? He is only what 42 out of a league better than the SPFL into Celtic. Strachan said "If you can manage Celtic you can be prime Minister" and a few ex Managers agreed jokingly. But the reality is that managing Celtic puts you under a HUGE microscope. But still, even after 0-0 Vs Dundee Ronny does not shrink the media. 1 bad game after a few dodgy and it seems we are going backwards or are stuck. What if we go on to win all the games we have left, win the double? Think like that and maybe we help?

 

If Ronny can't stand up to Collins and show him who's the boss its no wonder the players don't play for him,weak manager = weak team

 

I was talking about something similar last night, looking back to the Inter game at home. We genuinely looked a very decent team in that game in my opinion. Defensively we were still very suspect, but going forward, there was a lot to be optimistic about. We were pressing all over the park, and we looked fitter than ever. In fact, it was one of the first times I can recall us playing against a big name in Europe, and actually looking fitter than they were. We might not have won the game, or the tie, but we showed we could compete again in Europe. Had it not been for Van Dijk's red card, then who knows.

Compare that, to what we are seeing now, and it's like night and day. There is no urgency, our high pressing is a distant memory, and we look completely out of ideas going forward. There is just nothing about this current team at present. The football is stale, and it's time for a new manager with fresh ideas in my opinion.

 

So if it is the players fault why are you trying to blame Collins ?? Here's a dot or two
we are playing pish football
Ronny has signed 20 odd players in 18 months
Ronnys only experience has been Norwegian football
Ronny plays 4-2-3-1 every single game
Ronny plays who he wants regardless of form
The only person in a position to change any of these is ronny

 

Morning BG. 2 scenarios re Lenny/Tommo, both of which ultimately would come from PL.

1. Lenny was fed up with Tommo, went to PL,set out his case, which ended with something like "can't work with him any more.". PL would say something like " if that's how you feel I'll support you but you have to do the deed". So Lenny pulled the trigger but final decision rested with the PLC as it was they and not Lenny that employed Tommo - he was part of Lenny's Team.

2. Same "had enough of Tommo scenario" but this time it's PL that's saying it. Lenny, as an employee, had 2 choices. First was - do the deed and give Tommo the news or Second was - support Tommo, go against his employer and end up getting sacked himself.

In both of the above it would have been a PLC decision that would have been carefully gone through, probably including the Company's HR Manager who would make sure all T's crossed and I's dotted otherwise potential screw up and heavy legal matter. PL is many things but stupid he isn't and would make sure it was done right but would, I'm assuming, make sure Lenny was the one who gave the "you're not required" news.

Same goes for Ronny & anyone in his Team. It would be plain daft for Ronny to sack anyone without first going to PL and setting out the case because if nothing else, JC was a PL appointment.

 

They had a dodgy spell at the start just we were just as bad we never pulled away like we should have

 

I agree with the OP, last interview I read with Collins he was speaking about training and kept using "I". This is what I try to do, this is what I try to implement etc.

the man is a first class * and sets himself above Ronny.

But its neither here nor there at this point. All three of them are finished.

 

Ronny media conference after Dundee 0-0 Game [FULL]


I thought it only fair to show people what I mean when I say 'Ronny doesn't hide' as we all try to stand on the same page over what is happening at our club. One thing we can't do is start to boo every bad pass, let’s try and be positive and see how that effects the team. I know, I know, I am asking for too much, I am asking what many can't do and I respect that, but at least hear the man out before judging him fully. He IS 100% a good young European manager learning his trade perhaps too early at a Global giant, but he still talks well and he never hides and is probably the most honest guy I have ever came across, his 4-2-3-1 formation is used Globally by some of the World's greatest sides, Celtic players have PROVEN they can play to it, who has stopped doing their jobs here? And why? Ronny never hides from anyone, Something his players should learn


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ov975tgzQyA[/ame]

 

It really has went spectacularly * up.

 

He can talk the talk but frankly I'm done with his rhetoric and will give this a miss.

 

This.

 

I would hope 'all Celtic Fans want and hope Ronny can turn this around.
Surely even though we are all angry or whatever emotion, there is still a "If he turns it around Brilliant" thought in there somewhere. We all want him to do well, and last season he proved he can. Recently the players are not happy, many know it's JC but nobody is really saying this. Ronny can't really sack him I am told so it looks like Ronny is stuck with a Staff he never picked. I am wondering if Ronny asked for his own staff. He did bring a Norwegian lad over, what happened there? Is Ronny a yes man or hanging in there in the hope the fans help him?


Just fonting out loud buddy..

HH

 

I am asking if the Board are not helping Ronny. I hinted at it and it's in the tags before publish...