The Ronny Deila Thread

He got lucky in Norway and then set out to show how it was all down to him. Now he's here implementing the things he THINKS were responsible for the league win in Norway he's being found out big time.

Talks a good job, but that's about it.

 

It stopped being about defending Deila a long time ago and started being about defending a corner they had backed thenselves into IMO. Most bizarrely it started being a case of 'aye, he's doing shot but who could we possibly get instead?' As if the world isn't full of football managers who could get us to the CL or at least win a few games in the Europa.

 

Get Steve Clarke in until the summer with the idea if we start to play like a real team he keeps the job, nothing to lose he's out of work.

 

22 shots to 8. Motherwell get 4 on target and score 2.

First home defeat of the season. First home defeat since MARCH.

Ronny's record domestically AND in Europe is better than Lenny provided us in his first two seasons.

Some certain Celtic fans seem impervious to basic facts or the fact that in football the better team doesn't win 100% of the time.

Absolutely laughable stuff that a lot of our fans are buying into the "unknown Norwegian experiment has failed" peddled by the msm since day one.

They got you in the end.

A worse performing Lenny never got half the stick that RD gets. Maybe we should just sign "Celtic minded" managers in future and save us from ourselves.

 

Yes or Moyes

 

Couldn't agree more the football is far to slow boring and the shape of the team is a shambles the managers been out his depth since day 1 and if they don't act up stairs they can kiss good by to ever getting ten in a row, we're at poor just now the huns will challenge us withing a year or two.


Am naw buying into that 4-2-3-1 formation either we don't have the players to play it the reason the big teams like bayern and real use that is because in the 3 behind the striker it's players like ronaldo,Ribery, robben,bale,etc we have commons, no pace , then we have armstrong no pace, playing out of position then johansen or Rogic, no wonder we look terrible at times, we're fae to easy to beat these days especially in Europe, we have went backwards 20 odd year, "it's awrite but we will make the champions league next year"

 

Spot on.

 

A could care if our manager was from alaska or azerbaijan as long as the football on show was decent to watch and we were actually improving, the fact that the manager has had 2 years and a think we are a lot worse now than when he first arrived tells it's own story, the teams just not heading in the right direction and anybody defending it must be blind, we're utterly shocking and people are just accepting it!


The manager talks a good game that's about it other than that he's not the man to take us forward.

 

Stubbs would be a horrific choice as next manager.the teams declined enough under diela i dont want it to get any worse.

 

its still only half way through the season.im still expecting hibs to bottle it as they always do.

 

I said on at least two occasions in the Motherwell matchday thread that I thought the players looked as though they were lacking fight.

Of course you don't need a manager of the stature of Moyes or Rodgers to accomplish that, but the truth is, much like with players, when you operate at that end of the market that we are you're running a greater risk of hiring a complete flop.

Nope, but it's also worth bearing in mind that stats can be manipulated to suit any argument.

An anti-Deila argument can say we've got a terrible record like you mention, whilst someone else can say that last season we made it beyond the group stages and lost to Inter Milan in the kockout stage, which isn't too shabby really.

Again, the results we're getting are by & large what I'd expect when we have a manager who is being paid what Deila is, and who has the experience that Deila has.

I can understand the board not wanting to splash millions upon millions on players, but when we start doing the same with the manager the wheels are going to come off more times than not.

After all, a quality manager can get a group of decent players working well together, whilst a poor and inexperienced manager can turn a group of great players into a shambles when they step onto the field.

We need to invest properly in our management team, bringing in someone who is capable of doing the job and allowing them to recruit their own backroom staff.

If we don't, we can expect what we have gotten this season.

I disagree. I don't think we're in a position where we can take another chance on a cheap and inexperienced manager. We've failed to make the Champions League group stages two years running now, and another cheap and cheerful appointment could easily see that number double.

I know what you mean when you say that nothing is for certain, but the chances of success are far greater when you appoint a manager who's experienced and has shown that he knows what he's doing.

 

Pep's leaving Bayern you no what to do Lawwell

 

Lenny had his critics, I was certainly one. He also had credible opposition. But even if Ronny is doing better than Lenny did at this stage, can you see Ronny pulling off a CL win against Barca next season ?

I can't see him getting us into the group stages let alone getting out of the group.

If our main criteria for a manager is "better than Lenny" then it really does open the job up to just about any half decent manager.

 

That'll be because Lennon, much like Deila, was an inexperienced and cheap choice at the beginning.

Lennon obviously grew into a very good manager for us, and his record backs that up. I guess time will tell if Ronny does the same.

Just for the record, if you're going down the road of that argument you do realise that anything less than a domestic double, a cup semi-final and progression to the last 16 of the Champions League next season will put it to bed for good?

 

I find it odd we're mentioning Stubbs as a potential managerial candidate anytime soon. He had one average season in the Championship, which is the extent of his experience. Beyond the fact he used to play for us, I'm not sure what makes him suitable.

He's not even the most appealing choice in that League.

 

All of that is exactly what the board will go for.
Cheap, potential, celtic man, yes man.

 

Hypothetically If Ronnie is here next season qualifies for the CL, gets 9 points in the process beating Bayern Munich and we get knocked into the EL will those who support him now want him sacked.

This will in some peoples eyes be regression because he has gone from better than Lenny in Europe to worse than Lenny in Europe We are assuming here that the crtieria for how a Celtic manager is doing needs to be a direct comparison to Lennys record:icon_mrgreen:

 

1,000 opinions and we have to respect them all, I think so anyway.
For me Ronny is putting us in place. The blame for this 'Feeling' of Sack Ronny comes from the Scottish Game, maybe Football in the UK? I don't know...
We can look back to Celtic and other teams and see Clubs give managers time.

Listen to Ronny speak for *'s sake. This tells us he knows what he wants, he understands the process's and issues he must overcome to have HIS TEAM. Still he is dealing with Ghosts from other managers pasts. We MUST give Ronny January and next Summer to build HIS TEAM. It can't be done in what? 3 Transfer windows?

'WE ARE CELTIC'
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I am shocked people are still defending the management team!! I really mean that. 2 dreadful attempts at qualifying for the Champions League was more than enough to change things at the top. Not good enough. It's not like we were losing to Arsenal or a team of their quality after-all.

Then on top of that, the Europa campaign although I haven't checked, I would guess is an all time low for a Scottish Club??

What is it you like about what he's achieved so far?

 

Well Deila's European results are terrible, now he's started in the SPFL, show him the door now !!!