2015 General Election Discussion Thread

And I bet most of that is from British ex-pats travelling back to receive expensive healthcare. :smiley-laughing002:

Edit: Just found this from Channel 4

Why isn't this said more?

 

Come on now, that's hardly fair. If we're going to judge political figures on their background, schooling and suchlike then we'll probably be here all day.

Alex Salmond, for example, is a former banker (boo! hiss!) who worked as the oil economist for RBS.

It has to be accepted that not every politician is going to be the son or daughter of the local ragman and send their children to the school down the road from the local housing estate.

To be honest, I wouldn't want my politicians to be "every day" people anyway. I want them to be qualified, and to do the job they're being paid to do.

If they're doing their job (like Salmond was) then i have no issue with them living a comfortable life. Farage would be a * regardless of his background or where he sent his kids for their education.

Sadly, supply and demand dictates what a "fair wage" is, doesn't it? It stands to reason that a skill that is in demand but isn't widely available will be worth more than a skill that is available in abundance.

On that note, I think anyone with a bit of sense knows that the deflation of wages being paid to unskilled workers was the primary reasons behind the inclusion of certain nations into the EU in the first place.

Who profits from such a move? Big business, that's who. Cheaper labour is now readily available from workers who, for whatever reason, tend not to be interested in participation within the trade union movement (from my experience anyway), and as such are more than happy to work longer hours for less pay.

Why can't we address both? It doesn't have to be one or the other, does it?

Wouldn't it be an idea to reduce the numbers of people migrating to the UK down from 300,000 odd to a manageable number and tackle tax evasion?

That won't happen though, as our political spectrum is too stringent and strict. The left-wing parties who want to tackle tax evasion don't want to address immigration, whilst the right-wing parties who want to address immigration have hee haw to say about tax evasion.

As I said previously in this thread, there isn't any one party that addresses the important issues for me. Certainly not enough to warrant me voting for them.

 

I can't quote your post, Dáibhí, but I can't argue with much of it.

 

No worries, I'd also like to stress that I'm not defending UKIP as an entity, or advocating voting for them :smiley-laughing002:

 

Deary me, we all know the difference between tax Avoidance and Evasion, lets not then mix the 2 of them up, as to do so could look like an attempt to muddy a perfectly legal system with an illegal one.

 

Sinn Fein, though I can't say I think much of them really. Basically it's "rather them than the huns".

 

Why not SDLP then? Are they not the more progressive of the two nationalist parties?

 

Gerry Kelly is really the reason I'll be voting Sinn Fein. Don't think much of them, but do love Gerry Kelly.

 

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Going to vote Labour; they simply have the best policies for the people.

The SNP are charlatans of the highest order; they would promise the moon and people would believe it. I have actually heard people say they are socialist - the nationalist delusion frightens me when I hear things like this.

 

Are all of the no voters not 'nationalists'? Seems to be a derogatory term branded at SNP/yes voters, yet not a label bestowed upon the unionists, bizarre.

What you heard may or may not be true, however that is an opinion that some people have. Many SNP supporters know that not to be fully true, no party is anywhere near socialist, however the SNP are the closest. (of the main parties that is)

Socialism does not work, not the way we think it would.

I don't understand how you think Labour have the best policies, Ed Balls has already stated he doesn't think much was wrong with the Conservative budget. Labour pre-2010 were often more Conservative that the actual Conservatives!

 

Mind boggling that after listening to these 2 debates you could accuse the SNP of promising the moon while giving labour a free pass. Yesterday Jim Murphy promised £1800 to every 18 year old in the country. He has come in and talked absolute * non-stop.

Why on earth wasn't Patrik Harvie involved in the first debate? Refreshing listening to him compared to the rest.

 

Add on to that he is going to get Scotland £ 1 BILLION through the mansion tax!! Funded majority from the South East. Ed Milliband has been absolutely roasted for this by various presenters.

Jim is a liability. Will say anything he thinks will win votes. * into the win. :smiley-laughing002:

 

I hop you're right about the second part. I worry that a lot of the labour old guard - my dad and his dad voted for labour types - won't be swayed, make up a sizeable proportion of the electorate in Scotland and are likely to turnout.

 

Can't fathom Jimbo's shouty shouty nature does ma head right in. And he's obviously pandering to anyone still dumb enough to believe in Liebour with the "am one'a yous" one-liners. You are fooling no one ya muppet.

Was good seeing wee Nicola put that UKIP fruitcake in his place though!

 

If the people you are referring to are the wealthy in the south of England then yeah you're probably right.

Voting Liebour while accusing the SNP of being charlatans is laughable. Only one of those two parties actually cares about Scotland and it ain't the one you'll be voting for.

 

The invasion is already under way. Help!!!

 

Wicker man stuff :smiley-laughing002:

They still celebrate their....uhm....Norse ....ancestors slaughtering the original inhabitants,don't they?

 

Aye they love to get all togged up in their Viking dress and celebrate the mass rape and slaughter of the indigenous population.