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Outrage over Mohammed movie

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  1. Daver

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    Some Egyptian * nugget trawls the Internet, finds some buckshee piece of * movie made by an imbecile, makes a huge thing of it, idiots buy in to the supposed seriousness of it all, and here we all are.

    Seriously, the world has gone * mad. Actually laughable.
     
  2. Sween

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    I have just got home from Tunisia yesterday and this all kicked off as we were on our way to one of the biggest Mosques in North Africa. Lucky for us we were notified of this and we cancelled our trip.

    What I would say is that firstly, there were tens of thousands of peaceful protests that dont make the headlines. A lot of people who objected to this did so in a completely rational and civilised manner. What we are talking about is a minority (I appreciate you know this already but I do think it is worth stressing when people so often talk about "muslims" as a massive collective). As is almost almost the case where ever you go, the most educated people were the best behaved and the least educated and generally angry and confused people were those causing bother.

    Secondly, I am not sure if you can call someones brain "undeveloped *" because they do not enjoy the same access to education as we do. Most of these militants have only been educated in one way which stresses one radical belief system. They typically havent even been out of their local town or city, never mind their country. And in some of the nations effected by the recent protests many people are actively forced to accept the belief system that is forced on them.

    You compare this to our country where almost everyone has access to a free and good education system, free internet, libraries, free right of movement, etc. And we still had hundreds of people who rioted and torched our streets only a few months back without even being able to articulate why they were doing it. We still have people who will attack and murder others based on a favourite football team - never mind a favourite belief system.

    People need to be careful what they are attacking. I hate all forms of extremism but it isnt an "Islamic" issue in my eyes - it is a education issue.
     
  3. Taz Blind Justice Gold Member News Writer

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  4. Celtic Serbia

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    why would some egyptian copt be so stupid enough to put the lives of thousands of others copts at risk because of some rubbish film.

    doesnt make sense.

    surely he can't be that dumb to deliberately provoke the wahibbi's...
     
  5. Daver

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    Wonderful parenting. Simply fantastic.

    There's another generation of the brainwashed just waiting to be unleashed.

    Oh for the days of the Tampa affair where you Aussies wouldn't have taken this * lying down. What has happened to your gallous "* 'em" nature, Taz? This is highly depressing.:54:
     
  6. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Cool headed, I will say few things. I am not insulted. I usually laugh when people insult each other on the Internet, because I am sure 99% of them wouldn't have the courage to say it face to face.

    The same thing that I said and TIM O'Brien was not described like anti-western idiot.
    1. Did NATO help rebels in Libya to crash Gaddafi? Yes, they did. Fact.
    2. Did NATO help rebels who are Muslim fundamentalist with their Arabian spring? Yes, they did. Fact.
    And now, those people who got help from NATO aren't good any more.
    That is ridiculous.

    Soviet, LOL. You concluded that just because I post map provided by RT? Funny, that is just a map that shows the places where protests were held.

    I agree with this, but East (LOL, I do not know what to say, because people from the West look at Balkans like it is in the east, while people from the East (mainly Muslim countries) look at Balkans like it is in the west), better said, Muslim people who live there do not have same point view as western people. I mean, I am sure that there were
    Christians who were offended by "Life of Brian", but they wouldn't act like those people, but I can not believe that West didn't learn how Muslim fundamentalists are. I can not believe western people didn't learn that Muslim and non-Muslim civilization are two completely different worlds. or example, our laws do not approve polygamy, while they can have 4 wives.
    That man is a first class coward who went to the west, because he knew he would find
    fertile ground for that kind of film. The mighty ones knew, they wanted to provoke Muslims to make good conditions for a new "democratic action". That is my opinion and saying that I do not insult anyone.
    And, as far as I am concerned, that film is an insult. If someone says he disagrees with Islamic principals, that would be freedom of speech, but that movie is awful. It insults world largest religion and it seems that fact disturb non-Muslim world.
    For example, Gaddafi has been good for 40 years, but when he said this
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-3X5hIFXYU"]Muslim Demographics - YouTube[/ame]
    he became hated.

    And, do not get me wrong, but it is easy to speak about freedom of speech from your safe home in England, not only you, also lads from Germany, France, USA and so on, but we, Eastern European non-Muslims do not feel so comfortable. In case of new religious war, we would be the first on their list.
    So, I say. If you do not want problem with Muslims, do not insult their believes and everything will be fine.



    Is Wikileaks anti-western? Is Michael Moore anti-western? I do not think so.
    I am not Anti-western, I am not pro-Russian. I am myself.
    Look, mate, people around the world hate American, Russian, British, German government because they act like they want. They take what they want, talk about democracy when it's suits them. I am sure that American government is the most hated government in the world.
    But, on the other hand, I am sure that any other country's government would do the same things if they had money, power, possibility and chance to do that. They wouldn't be different at all. Greedy and ambition do not have name or nationality. People just want to achieve their own aims.
    World politics is like chess table. Two major players are mighty countries-USA, UK, Germany, France and other western lads on the other and Russia, China, North Korean on the other side.
    Small countries are just figures on the chess table. When the mighty one makes wrong move, their figure, better said, country that listens the mighty one will be removed by the player from the other side of the world. Small countries are good only for their demonstrating of power. USA and Russia won't attack each other. There are small proRussian or pro_American countries that will pay.
    To prove you, I am not anti-western or anti-Russian or whatever, I will tell you that I never vote. I never vote in Bosnia and Herzegovina, but I also do not vote in Serbia which I could do as a Serbian passport bearer. There are nationalist parties, democratic parties, anti-EU parties, anti_western parties, pro-western parties, anti and pro-Russian parties, but I do not vote. Do you know why?
    1. "I am innocent of the blood of those just personS ( I mean about those countries population); see you to it". If you could see what kind of rude, corrupted, mean bunch of persons Balkan politicians are, you would know what I am talking about.
    2. It would be like the mighty one wants. 2008 elections in Serbia. Nationalist and pro-Russian party got most votes, but do you know what the Americans wanted. They wanted that Slobodan Milošević's party ( yeah, the most hated man on the west) against they fought to crush Milošević and democratic party which is pro-western and which the west helped to destroy Milošević, to make a coalition. See, people they used to destroy Milošević should be stucked with party whose president Milošević was, just to push Serbia away from Russia.
    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08"]The Weight of Chains | Težina lanaca (2010) - YouTube[/ame]
    1: 50 :52
    That is why I do not vote. I can not change anything, but I won't lose my time and let them make me fool.

     
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  8. Daver

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    There are only approximately 4 sentences of the above post that seem to follow any logic or indeed rationale. Completely * baffled from start to finish, I must admit!
     
  9. Mr. Slippyfist

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    That CelticgirlRSB post makes me wish I was colour blind!


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  10. Liam Scales

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    I am colour blind.

    Doesn't make it make any more sense to me.
     
  11. The The Hand

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    Yes, in a complex and uncertain world, it's reassuring to know some things remain stable. :smiley-laughing002:
     
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  13. The The Hand

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    BTW, I thought CelticgirlSRB's post made very good sense, I just had to read it twice... :icon_mrgreen:
     
  14. Daver

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    [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tampa_affair"]Tampa affair - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

    In short, the Aussies generally take no sh*t. Violent demos outside an embassy I frankly expected to result in Aussie outrage!

    The Hand, i'll give it another go then.......fewer colours in the * rainbow.
     
  15. Liam Scales

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    I have a lot of Aussies on my facebook, a lot of them are hitting the * roof about it.
     
  16. Mr. Slippyfist

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    Did the roof insult Mohammed as well? :rolleyes::56::56::56:
     
  17. Craig94

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    I know what the Tampa affair is. It's just you talk about it like the Australian government did the right thing and it wasn't a vile racist act on the part of the Australian government that almost resulted in the deaths of 500 people.
     
  18. Daver

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    Jesus Christ.

    Here's the second wiki link for you, to save me any further time or, indeed, effort:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tongue-in-cheek
     
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    these insipid mutts that rioted in sydney, they've proved to australian society that all negative stereotypes from australians toward islam are true. that muslims are violent, extremists, easily offended, not a peaceful religion and no regard for law and order.


    unless the islamic community in oz come out and publicly protest against the wahibbi / salafist extremist elements responsible for the violence, then the whole islamic community will have a very negative image attached to it. It will just fuel australian nationalism and another cronulla.