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Boycotting those who vote yes.

Discussion in 'Celtic Chat' started by Scarecrow, Jun 18, 2012.

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  1. limezer

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    eh!
     
  2. idlewildered

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    Your suggestion that Peter lawwell demands that clubs tow the Celtic line or no support is mental!

    Again, for the avoidance of doubt, our position is the right one, but who the * are we to tell anyone else what to do?

    And with that I need to sleep. It's been fun folks.
     
  3. limezer

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    Wrong better than letting them walk all over us as they have done for years, but you can bury your head. night night.
     
  4. TIM O'Brien

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    Why should people who want to go and watch the games have to miss out on that because you think we should be sticking together :97: I mean why is it these people who should miss out?? I could just as easily say to you come and stick by us and support your team.. I could just as easily say your giving us the Big middle finger. Your talking like your in the middle of the miner strike :icon_mrgreen: I'm suprised you didn't bring up the word SCAB.


    Also your talking about how well organised it would make the support look... why is that relevent? That's what worries me. I think a lot of the people supporting this idea have this sort of ultra mentality or rebel mentality, and that is one of the main reasons they'd like this to go ahead, "Because it would make the support look good" and it would be controversial.. I'm not saying that's the reason everyone would like this to happen but I think it's the reason some people do..
     
  5. TheZacDaddy

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    To a certain extent this league has ALWAYS been fixed - after all, do we not play against 14 most weeks???

    As for the overall argument - for the sake of sporting integrity the world MUST say NO to the newco!!!

    Anything else would be shambolic...

    The fact that;

    1) their administration process, and all the hullabaloo that went along with it, lasted as long as it did...
    2) the investigations by governing bodies lasted as long they have done...
    3) the length of time it has taken to hand over documentation to the authorities...
    4) that industrial sized paper shredders that were filmed arriving at ibroke...
    5) etc, etc, etc...

    ...makes the entire affair so far beyond farcical, shambolic, etc it truly does beggar belief...

    And the fact that we now have to wait another 3 weeks before the vote is cast and 'club 12' are revealed makes it all the worse...

    The world has long been watching and laughing at scottish football...the metaphorical side had well & truly split a long time ago...these days the looks cast from elsewhere are more of bemusement, disbelief and embarrassment...

    The sooner an end is brought to this pathetic saga the better - and for the sake of all concerned, the only outcome can be expulsion from the top flight leaving them the option of applying to enter the 4th tier of scottish football...

    And that being the case, would it necessarily end there???

    After all, if I were a non/highland/whatever-league club chasing a promotion opportunity into the realm of sfl football, I would certainly have something to say about it...

    Either way, somebody will lose out and the words 'unfair' and 'tainted' will long be associated with football in this country...

    Hail Hail
     
  6. TheZacDaddy

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    As for the boycott - I can see both sides to this particular coin...<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
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    I agree that a boycott would be merited for those who vote to allow a newco into the spl - but only if they receive sufficient votes and the newco gain top flight status...<o:p></o:p>
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    However the Celtic support is one of the best in the world - the manager and players have long stated our effect on them and their performance... why should they be the ones to lose out - and in effect, why should WE lose out, as we will lose out on all the memories and experiences that come with travelling to and then witnessing our team play...<o:p></o:p>
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    To say that we are bullying clubs into making a certain decision, or being hunnish I would disagree with and this is why;<o:p></o:p>
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    1) we are using our right to vote - on this occasion to vote with our feet against those who condone cheating - this is the only democratic opportunity we have in the entire process, albeit the actions of the supporters would be after the fact - but compare this to an election and view the current opinion being offered by supporters as a 'mori poll survey' if you will...which gives those involved in the voting process an indication as to the feeling of the people - that can then allow them to alter their policy, should they decide to do so...<o:p></o:p>
    2) we as a people, as well as a support, cannot be compared to the orcs in any way - this is something that orcs and/or ignorant neutrals have attempted to do for years...(the old; they're just as bad as each other argument) to see members of our own support do so is quite saddening... (and yes, I'm aware that that particular argument is usually relating to certain situations or behavioural situations) however the only comparison that can be made between both sets of supporters is to say that both support a team who's ground is located in glasgow...<o:p></o:p>
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    Either way, whilst we may have a spirited debate well into the wee small hours, we must unite and be as one - as to part boycott and have an away support of 50-100 fans, where we have the opportunity for thousands would make us look silly - and as per my previous post, the last thing this league needs is to look any sillier!!!<o:p></o:p>
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    So no matter what we do, let's do it properly and as one - then the world will see that the Celtic support stands together, whether we are roaring our team onto victory, or making a stand against moral corruption!!!<o:p></o:p>
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    Hail Hail
     
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    ^^ Agree completely mate... unfortunately though, this doesn't get us any closer to witch is the right way to go:icon_mrgreen:
     
  8. made in ireland

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    For those against a boycott, do you regularly attend away games?

    And if you do: are you comfortable with handing over your hard earned cash to clubs who support and are complicit in creating a biased and corrupt league, devoid of any integrity or morals?

    I certainly wouldn't be.
     
  9. Kutek

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    my last post on this subject, this is what all the clubs need to do!

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk"]Public Enemy - Fight The Power - YouTube[/ame]

    * the Newco and * the SFA!
     
  10. AwesomeCaz

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    I think we should boycott away games but NEVER at Parkhead, unless circumstances change and our owners become as bas as others in Scotland.
     
  11. jokeybhoy

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    Boycotts prob won't work as we have far too many fans who will support the team no matter what and fair play to them.
     
  12. TheZacDaddy

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    Thanks, although my point is simply that we use democracy and communicate in order to come to a unified solution...

    Mods could we a poll to this thread please in order to assist???

    For the sake of simplicity - in order to ascertain overall opinion and to avoid misinterpretation of votes/feelings, I would suggest a single question with a simple Yes/No answer;

    So...

    Question;
    If newco are allowed into spl, should Celtic supporters boycott AWAY games of clubs who voted in their favour?
    Answer;
    Yes
    No

    Many thanks in advance!

    And to all - keep fighting the good fight!!!

    Solidarity brothers!!!

    Hail Hail
     
  13. Marie Bookmaker

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  14. James Gold Member Gold Member

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    Don't agree with a boycott we should support our team every match not the players fault and it's the players we pay to watch. Even if it did come to it as has been said their would be fans who would still go and I would agree with them.

    Anyway boycotts would be copying ra peepul as apparently they are boycotting everything from tax payments to willam hills
     
  15. TheZacDaddy

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    Cheers Marie :50:
     
  16. TheZacDaddy

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    Hey Marie - we might need to amend the poll question, as full question not showing (granted being Celtic folk we are all intelligent enough to get it - but it is getting late :icon_mrgreen:)

    If newco are voted into spl, should we boycott AWAY games of clubs who voted yes?
    Thanks again
    Hail Hail
     
  17. idlewildered

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    I do attend away games with my dad quite regularly, at least five a season but with him getting slower on his feet these days it's touch and go whether we can always attend the games we buy tickets for.

    I'm completely comfortable with handing my money over to any other club in the SPL. They didn't cheat and they've been put in a terrible position with having to make this vote. A vote that either way they go they're going to feel the pinch.

    A clubs first responsibility should be to their supporters and not being pushed into making a decision by ours.
     
  18. Marie Bookmaker

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  20. strachansdaman

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    well I personally think lawwell wants them there anyway