4-4-2 v's 4-3-3

brown could play in the front 3 easily though, he's got the pace to run down the flanks, don't know if he's good at crossing though...

 

This.

 

exactly...and we have a stokes-hooper formula which works a treat. barca are able to do it bcos they have 3 unbelievable CFs...we only have 2 decent people who fit that bill.

also i dont think barcas success is down to a 4-3-3 formation rather than a 4-4-2

 

So did Brown.

 

Nah, Brown had a free role in the centre of a midfield three, Riordan, O'Connor and Sproule were Hibs usual front three at that time.

 

Forster

Wilson Wilson Rogne Izaguirre

Brown Kayal ledley

keane hooper stokes
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Three strikers and no Commons? Nah.

 

Forgot about commons
You could put Commons in there instead of Ledley or stokes?

 

ahead of stokes. Commons couldn't replace ledley - he's not a CM

 

No not with Brown out right.

And I disagree with the bit about Commons scoring much in that formation. Because in this 4-4-2 formation we are playing now he has a bit of a free role. He shows up in the middle a lot of times and that is where his goals are coming from. But if he does that in a 4-3-3 with already 3 central midfielders, it will be very busy in the middle. And it is important to keep the pitch wide in a 4-3-3.

And another point. If you play 4-3-3 the right way you should have many crosses coming in from the flanks. But with Hooper in the middle, he will never win headers. Maybe he would score a few tap-ins, but Hooper is far better with a partner as some people already mentioned. And by the way, I dont see Brown and Commons run past players there, they have other qualities.

So I'd say stick with 4-4-2!

 

4-3-3 doesn't really fit with the players we've got in my opinion. 4-4-2 in the league, and I'd go 4-2-3-1 (the most prominent formation in world football currently) in Europe.

With what we have player wise at the minute, I'd go with:

League
New GK
Wilson Wilson Majstorovic Izaguirre
Brown Kayal Ledley Commons
Stokes Hooper

Europe
New GK
Wilson Wilson Majstorovic Izaguirre
Kayal Ki
Brown Commons Ledley
Hooper

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4-2-3-1 is actually 4-3-3

 

4-2-3-1 is like a more "defined" 4-5-1 formation and if we play that one we should play

new gk
Wilson Wilson Majstorovic Izzaguirre
Ki Kayal
Brown Ledley Commons
Hooper/ Samaras (or another targetman)

 

Nah it's more of a 4-4-1-1 with defensive mids tbh

 

No it's not.

 

We gotta use a formation which fits our team not which is best for the best teams in the world.

 

It is I think. A 4-3-3 with 2 holding midfielders and 1 attacking.

But it depends on what kind of players you put on the flanks. If you play Brown and Ledley like some people did, then you can say it is not a 4-3-3. I agree with that. That are no wingers. If you put them on the flanks in a 4-2-3-1, that would be wrong imo. But if you play 2 real wingers (ie Forrest) you can expect that sort of players to stay forward if they can.


Whats the difference between this 4-2-3-1?

Forster

Wilson - Wilson - Majstorovic - Izaguirre

Kayal - Ledley

Brown - Commons - Forrest

Hooper
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and this 4-3-3?

Forster

Wilson - Wilson - Majstorovic - Izaguirre

Kayal - Ledley

Commons

Brown - Hooper - Forrest

I bet you don't see a difference
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with the wingers we have available and with ledley as a holding player id prefer to play 3-5-2 lennon knows this system inside out he won everthing as a player with it...

 

That's not 4-3-3, commons isn't a CM he's an AM, so that would be a 4-2-1-3...

 

Yeah but when will you see that all the 3 midfielders play next to each other?

This will only happen on paper: Kayal - Ki - Ledley
You will always have one player behind or in front of the other midfielders.
That just happens.

Ajax is famous with the 4-3-3 and this seasons midfield is like this:

De Zeeuw - Enoh

Eriksen

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